Thread: who here recovers really well from a cycle?

I'm just finishing up pct after 8 months of blasting and cruising. I got bloodwork done yesterday and will have results in a few days. But, either I'm fine with low test levels, or I recovered very well. I never had any depression or lack of motivation, and I've felt great. My libido hasn't been quite as high as normal, but it's not bad and no problems with performing. Oh, and I got some pretty big zits on my back and shoulders, but those seem to be going away too.

Originally Posted by alphabolic

if you have always bounced back after PCT, list your age and how many cycles you ran.

im 23 and ran 2 already with the 2nd cycle including tren. but both times, roughly 2-3 weeks into PCT i felt completely normal again, sex drive still very high so no loss of libido, balls are normal size again, etc. for my last cycle i got my test levels checked 2 months after PCT and i was at 608. before i ever touched aas i was at 307...

i have yet to get a blood test for this last test/tren/mast cycle because im on 3rd week of PCT of aromasin and clomid. not time for that yet.

does it only get harder to recover the more cycles you do? because the thought of blasting & cruising can be tempting. but if i happen to keep recovering this well, i dont see the point. (except to keep gains easier, but i keep a good amount anyways)

you won't get that lucky for long doing blasting and cruising

Only 1 cycle before, 24yo and felt great through entire PCT and after. No fallback libido-wise whatsoever, strengthwise some and very little weightloss. PCT was nolva + aromasin and no HCG through cycle. Going for bloodtest soon to check levels, before i started test was at the bottom of global reference range and about half of the lower end reference range (age-wise).

I can say that I regret what I did, I'm mad at myself. From now I'm going w short esters and 10 weeks max.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I can say that I regret what I did, I'm mad at myself. From now I'm going w short esters and 10 weeks max.

That's a good policy. Test e and c, not just prop works though for 10 weeks too.

Originally Posted by alphabolic

if you have always bounced back after PCT, list your age and how many cycles you ran.

im 23 and ran 2 already with the 2nd cycle including tren. but both times, roughly 2-3 weeks into PCT i felt completely normal again, sex drive still very high so no loss of libido, balls are normal size again, etc. for my last cycle i got my test levels checked 2 months after PCT and i was at 608. before i ever touched aas i was at 307...

i have yet to get a blood test for this last test/tren/mast cycle because im on 3rd week of PCT of aromasin and clomid. not time for that yet.

does it only get harder to recover the more cycles you do? because the thought of blasting & cruising can be tempting. but if i happen to keep recovering this well, i dont see the point. (except to keep gains easier, but i keep a good amount anyways)

You're very lucky to have recovered that fast. Congrats on your cycle. I suggest you don't push it though. If you're going to cruise, you better be prepared to accept the possibility of never coming off.

Originally Posted by squigader

That's a good policy. Test e and c, not just prop works though for 10 weeks too.

Yeah, but prop would be optimal and I won't have the 2 week wait before starting pct. I've never used prop, hopefully I can handle the pip.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I can say that I regret what I did, I'm mad at myself. From now I'm going w short esters and 10 weeks max.

Why are you mad at yourself? It sounds like you have recovered exceptionally well after doing a blast n' cruise cycle. I'm 4 weeks into a test cyp/mast enth cycle and have been seriously considering cruising after reading about your experience. BTW I'm 50.....Iknow, I know...I'm really OLD!!!! lol

Originally Posted by Prize

Why are you mad at yourself? It sounds like you have recovered exceptionally well after doing a blast n' cruise cycle. I'm 4 weeks into a test cyp/mast enth cycle and have been seriously considering cruising after reading about your experience. BTW I'm 50.....Iknow, I know...I'm really OLD!!!! lol

I'm mad that I didn't use more self control. I'm not ready for trt at the age of 32. I pride myself On being in control w everything I do, and I wasn't this time.

I don't bounce back too well

I THINK i do, i did my first cycle of 500mg test-e with hcg and aromasin, im more than 2 weeks into PCT and havnt had a dick issue yet. my drive is a lil down, but i can get it u and keep it up no prob, and this is over a month after last injection

Originally Posted by LightBearer

I THINK i do, i did my first cycle of 500mg test-e with hcg and aromasin, im more than 2 weeks into PCT and havnt had a dick issue yet. my drive is a lil down, but i can get it u and keep it up no prob, and this is over a month after last injection

I think that ED is rare

I recover well from ALL my cycles. Why? Because I read and learn my shit and have blood work done about once a month (my best bro is also my MD and calls me in all the time for blood work)....this way I know exactly what my body needs and what state of condition I'm in.

I had one problem many many years back with nolva during PCT....won't ever touch the stuff again unless gyno presents itself. And it gets easier to recover as you go on with your cycles....but you have to have the right shit between your ears and do it right. Get blood work, blood work, blood work, blood work! Without it, you are more or less guessing everything.



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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I recover well from ALL my cycles. Why? Because I read and learn my shit and have blood work done about once a month (my best bro is also my MD and calls me in all the time for blood work)....this way I know exactly what my body needs and what state of condition I'm in.

I had one problem many many years back with nolva during PCT....won't ever touch the stuff again unless gyno presents itself. And it gets easier to recover as you go on with your cycles....but you have to have the right shit between your ears and do it right. Get blood work, blood work, blood work, blood work! Without it, you are more or less guessing everything.



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Yeah, I think I spend more mOney on bloodwork than gear.

not me.. lol depression

Originally Posted by LightBearer

I THINK i do, i did my first cycle of 500mg test-e with hcg and aromasin, im more than 2 weeks into PCT and havnt had a dick issue yet. my drive is a lil down, but i can get it u and keep it up no prob, and this is over a month after last injection

how many lbs are you down so far, if any:?

Originally Posted by WallsOfJericho

how many lbs are you down so far, if any:?

im down 10lbs, it seems to be all water, i lost bloat but my arms and quads measure the same

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

I had one problem many many years back with nolva during PCT....won't ever touch the stuff


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what problems did you have with the nolva?

Originally Posted by LightBearer

what problems did you have with the nolva?

Post cycle acne/backne, IGF levels went through the ground, my eyesight went bad for a few weeks seeing spots/tracers (never happened with clomid), some shortness in breath....I basically felt like shit. Shit ain't for me.....and some guys swear by it. Like Llewellyn for example.




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Originally Posted by VictorZ06

Post cycle acne/backne, IGF levels went through the ground, my eyesight went bad for a few weeks seeing spots/tracers (never happened with clomid), some shortness in breath....I basically felt like shit. Shit ain't for me.....and some guys swear by it. Like Llewellyn for example.




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Don't forget TwisT, he also prefers nolva. I, myself prefer the Clomid/Aromasin combo for pct.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

Don't forget TwisT, he also prefers nolva. I, myself prefer the Clomid/Aromasin combo for pct.

On paper, nolva looks like the way to go for PCT. It just doesn't agree with me. I do just fine with clomid and aromasin, my blood work proves it.


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I did 3 cycles, first two were oral only. Test levels were 340 before my first cycle(50mg dbol for 6 weeks). PCT was Nolva. Hated nolva, had absolutely no emotions on it, no sex drive, nothing.

2 or 3 months later my T levels were 314, did a cycle of winny only for 6 weeks. PCT was clomid. Gave me acne and headaches for the first few days of it, but sex drive came back really fast and emotionally I felt normal.

2 months or so after that I got T levels clocked in at 415 I was pretty pumped. Still low but not awful. 4 or 5 months later Did my 9 weeks 525mg test with 40mg dbol for the last 3 weeks while the esters cleared. Did HCG 500iu twice per week throughout the cycle and did 1000iu twice during that last dbol week. PCT was nolva. Will get T levels checked in a few more weeks.



As far as keeping gains goes, dbol I gained 12 pounds, lost 8 of em, gained em back naturally before the winny cycle. Lots of strength gain. Winny I gained 10 pounds, and in my last week of it did something horrible to my pec and it's been almost a year since then but I still am afraid to bench anything I can't do 10 times. I ALSO threw out my back for the first time in my life a month or so after winny. It was a shame, I loved everything about winny but it killed my joints. Lost 8 pounds of what I gained. With Test I gained about 20 pounds, had some fluctuation in post cycle, but it's been almost 5 weeks and I'm still up 18 pounds. Definitely a little bit fatter though.