i ran tren higher than test for the first time recently to give it a shot. was using 50mg tren ace along with 30mg prop ED. if i dont use caber then my erections are floppy. so yeah make sure u got that caber lol.


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i ran tren higher than test for the first time recently to give it a shot. was using 50mg tren ace along with 30mg prop ED. if i dont use caber then my erections are floppy. so yeah make sure u got that caber lol.


There are two main ways to go about it. Run a good dosed AI right away or start the Nolva 3-4 weeks before the Tren and continue the Nolva throughout.
btw, your proposed cycle may need to be re looked at. I would run the Tren at the end. Dropping it before the cycle is over is going to slow gains.
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I have always used nolva with tren and never had any issues. I did find that i got alot of joint pain post cycle after tren and nolva. Id say that is mostly from the fact that you can move alot more weight.


been running Tren Ace at 75-100mg ED (625-700mg EW) and Test at 500mg EW. Holy strong, vascular and everything else. Huge difference as opposed to running Tren at 50mg ED and running the Test higher. Even on non-workpout days, my arms are pulsating with nightcrawler-type veins popping out and gyrating around my upper arms and forearms.
Irritability, enormous sex drive, crazy behavior during sex (as if I get taken over by a mad caveman), profuse sweating, disruptive sleep patterns, some irrational thoughts throughout the day and BP has gone up to borderline hypertension. However, it's working wonders for setting personal max records in the gym and keeping my body in a very lowfat state. Lots of back fur has grown in and bald spot on back of head has increased significantly probably due to earlir use of Primo, Mast and Winstrol. A little acne on shoulders but the gains I've made on this far outweight the sides IMO.


This thread makes me want tren in a bad way.
Love tren A, never tried tren E.
Was able to go up to 100 a day on tren. I get little sides other than trensomnia. Definitely gonna try to go higher with the tren this time. Is there a ratio everyone's using 2:1? Next cycle will start with prop/npp then switch to prop/tren. Would the same hold true for other compounds fighting for the same receptors? Like npp or Deca??
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run 500mg a week for 18-20 weeks sides suck but you get use to it.
Hate it.
It does nothing that diet and cardio can't. It's terrible on the heart and is toxic as hell. The sides are terrible.
Dieting hard is difficult enough, throwing this into the mix is just like adding gas to the fire.
I personally would not ever use it again.



People do not use lower test, higher npp ratios. NPP is a whole different beast compared to tren and most run 2:1 test:deca or test:npp. Despite both being 19-nor's, NPP seems to cause libido/ed issues in more where as tren seems to increase libido in a lot of people (not mee, boo)
Some lucky people can run deca without test and not experience any issues, but you wont' know until you try. Lee Priest was a big advocate of deca only cycles I believe, but maybe his cycling habits changed over time and I never reinvestigated.
My experience with tren is that HeavyIron may start posting some crazy threads if he's been on it for awhile:
How do you become a FREAK?
That's probably all I will ever know about tren.
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Well I appreciate your concern, etc but if you look back throughout each and every post I've made; never once have I recommended anyone to cycle like I do. I understand the risks associated with aas, long blast sessions, high tren doses and I assume the risks myself. That is not stupid of me b/c I know what coujld happen. I just happen to be willing to take the chance. Bloodwork every 6 months and I've laid off orals as well as Tren for a while before starting Tren again about 6 weeks ago. I'm not claiming to be invincible to adverse effects, etc. I suspect all my physiological functions will return to normal upon cessation of the tren. At least this is what I hope for.
That came out wrong, my bad.
All I'm trying to say is be safe.
I can't find any information on taking prami with tren. Is it the same dosages as caber?

No, caber is dosed at .5mg every three days or twice weekly. Prami is dosed daily at .25-.5mg every day due to it's shorter active life. Some people swear by prami and some caber. I personally took my caber pre-bed and got no significant side effects from it. Did it's just at keeping prolactin away.
Thanks buddy. I was trying to put a sus+tren cycle together. Looking at what ancilliares i needed.

Fo those that get high blood pressure during tren cycle have yall tried to lower it with bp meds?