Thread: Does milk thistle or liver juice reduce the effectiveness of oral aas?

would also like to know this

So far from what I have heard and read on other forums it does have an effect on oral aas. So to combat the loss of effectivness. Take the liver supplement(Milk Thistle) four hours before your next oral aas schedule. That is the protocol I am using.


I am using dbol. I take it every eight hours. So four hours after I take the dbol I tkae the liver supplement. I take the cycle support 2 pills twice a day.

I hope this helps someone else!

Im taking 2 milk thistles twice a day, and no issues yet.

damn.. i've been taking cycle assist at the same time as DMZ for 3 weeks now..

Originally Posted by acemon

So far from what I have heard and read on other forums it does have an effect on oral aas. So to combat the loss of effectivness. Take the liver supplement(Milk Thistle) four hours before your next oral aas schedule. That is the protocol I am using.


I am using dbol. I take it every eight hours. So four hours after I take the dbol I tkae the liver supplement. I take the cycle support 2 pills twice a day.

I hope this helps someone else!

agreed

milkthistle and other liver supports stregthin the liver basically so less of the oral can pass thru. i usually just take 4 hrs after my last does of an oral

But you see orals pass through your liver TWICE. The point is to assist repairing your liver. If you take a proper dosage of an oral the lost wont be significant IMO

I read once that milk-thistle can elevate estrogen levels and hinder gains. It was not a reputable source. Anyone have any knowledge on that?

hmm i guess ill spread out my dosage a lil diff

^^ me too. DMZ for breakfast, cycle assist for lunch, DMZ for dinner, cycle assist before bed..

I'll see If can dig something up regarding this. But iirc, it doesn't affect gains.

Originally Posted by adwal99

damn.. i've been taking cycle assist at the same time as DMZ for 3 weeks now..

tell me about it, i've ran 3 cycles doseing everything together at the same time...phuck'n pisses me off...maybe thats why some folks feel some PH's are bunk but may just be hindering effects by doseing liver support and PH together.

yea ive taken all at once for awhile just throw a handfull and go

Nope they wont blunt the others when you take them.

If youre that concerned with it, just use it post cycle. The only real supp you need for oral aas is NAC. When some1 OD's on tylenol, they give you NAC at the hospital, amongst other things. The liver is one of the most resilient organs in your body aside from your tongue. There is an entire industry of supps banking off of oral toxicty fear mongering. A healthy diet, water, maybe nac.

In the morning I take A Animal Pak, Animal Cut, 1 super dmz, and 2 milk thistles. So basically I need to wait lets say an hour or two before taking my milk thistle?

Never had an issue with oral aas, and I agree with SFW, do not over complicate things by taking 10 different pills for your liver, waste of money imo. I do take milk thistle daily, I have for about 4 years. It has never hindered my gains, right now infact I take 4 grams of it with my orals and It hasn't slowed or hindered any gains.