Thread: HGH advice please

The hgh will help you maintain mass while you're in PCT, but once you're past that stage, i'd save the rest for when you're on cycle. I'd recommend at least 5iu a day on cycle or 10iu eod considering you're only 27, but try it out and see.

You are too young for GH and blue tops are a waste of money. What are your goals?

Not really too young. A 20yr old only produces 500mcg per day. I've been taking 5iu ED and it's been pretty nice.

If all youre going to run it make sure you have enough to do it on cycle. The synergy is supposed to be amazing.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Not really too young. A 20yr old only produces 500mcg per day. I've been taking 5iu ED and it's been pretty nice.

If all youre going to run it make sure you have enough to do it on cycle. The synergy is supposed to be amazing.

This the average 20 year produces 500mcg HGH daily, 2.7iu HGH is = to 1000mcg HGH

So at 6iu/ed you would be supplying 2222mcg or 2.2mg ed

Well, I have 600iu's and if I shoot for 5 months at 4iu's eod. i'll have enough to last. so u recommend at least 5iu a day. on cycle, and are you saying off cycle, I should be taking 10ius? and what does the considering my age, and doing it for my first time, have something to do with the dosage? can you explain?

Maybe I'll do more HGH, for 3months at time. I have my first physique competition coming up in may. Giving boxing up for the time being after 14 years. Got the diet in check. Exercising diff. body parts, on diff. days is a bit confusing. hard work and diet has been great. Just need to learn more, and get better advice from people that know about shiz sit.

want to start running tne/dbol with some extra test and tren. for 6 weeks, and then start cutting up for the show with mast/tren/ and light test? Oh, and some var.

I need people to tell me what I should run!!!. Raws n more. said I should do 4ius. 2ius in morning, and 2ius at night? then maybe up it? idk. thanks yall

Originally Posted by pieguy

The hgh will help you maintain mass while you're in PCT, but once you're past that stage, i'd save the rest for when you're on cycle. I'd recommend at least 5iu a day on cycle or 10iu eod considering you're only 27, but try it out and see.

GOALS:

To get good advice from people in this forum, and try to look superhuman, while keeping my body as healthy as possible. Without overdoing it on AAS and all the other shit I put in my body. Be a world class boxer maybe? Do photo shoots, and look insanely good?

What are your goals Pahlevan?

Originally Posted by Pahlevan

You are too young for GH and blue tops are a waste of money. What are your goals?

Why are Blue tops a waste of money? What other HGH would you refer to me? Have you taken them before?

Yeah, I may be too young. But I'm sure allot of people younger than me, are dosing up on HGH. A choice i'm gonna take, to excel at trying to be an elite competitor in this world.

Originally Posted by Pahlevan

You are too young for GH and blue tops are a waste of money. What are your goals?

Originally Posted by Pahlevan

You are too young for GH and blue tops are a waste of money. What are your goals?

Why would you consider Blue Tops a waste of money? You got something better in the same price range? I've used script HGH and I am now using Blue tops, Red tops, Kigtropin for the price I am very satisfied with the Blue Tops & Kigtropin... been pinning GH for the past 6 years, the last 5 on Blue Tops alone.

Man you'll be okay on 4iu's but that extra 2iu in the bottle pissed me off so I went ahead and went with 5iu's. That will be good while off cycle. When you get back on I'd up it to around 8 or so if you can handle it.

Personally i take it first thing in the morning or post workout. I also take CJC/ModGRF at bed time to make sure I'm still producing GH naturally.

Z's blue tops are 100% legit. Just had labs done and my HGH and IGF-1 levels were sky high.

Originally Posted by rss500

So I need some advice. I'm 5'4 150lbs 27yo. I'm post cycling until Feb. 15th. I was gonna start my 3rd aas cycle then. I'm getting 600iu's of HGH blue tops soon, and I'm gonna pin 2iu's twice a day for a total of 4iu's a day for 5 months.

Can I or should I start the HGH blue tops, once I get them, even know I'm on post cycle? Or should I wait till I start my 3rd AAS cycle on Feb. 15th.

Appreciate the help.......

What is the ultimate goal here?

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Man you'll be okay on 4iu's but that extra 2iu in the bottle pissed me off so I went ahead and went with 5iu's. That will be good while off cycle. When you get back on I'd up it to around 8 or so if you can handle it.

Personally i take it first thing in the morning or post workout. I also take CJC/ModGRF at bed time to make sure I'm still producing GH naturally.

Natty GH shutdown isn't like with AAS, totally different.

Originally Posted by XYZ

Natty GH shutdown isn't like with AAS, totally different.

I'm just looking for a little CYA. Don't wanna fuck myself up.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

I'm just looking for a little CYA. Don't wanna fuck myself up.

You won't. You actually listen, ask good questions and take pre-cautions.

Even though it's already been said, a good bluetop hgh is worth every penny. You are not too young for HGH and HGH + AAS is an amazing combination and leaning one out while adding quality mass. HGH is renowned for it's hyperplasia in muscle cells and when combined with AAS, can cause a ton of growth, especially when you're passed your genetic limit.

Most people take around 5iu minimum a day on cycle or 10iu every other day and it makes a world of difference, especially during low calorie times. You can also use less HGH (3-4iu) and add in GHRP2/ipa/ghrp6+cjc1295 w/o dac pre-bed and igf-lr3/des pre-workout. GHRP/CJC's are quite cost effective but HGH and IGF aren't, so do what your wallet allows and eat a shitload considering hgh/igf make gaining fat pretty damn difficult.

Originally Posted by Pahlevan

You are too young for GH and blue tops are a waste of money. What are your goals?

What is your reasoning for stating that he is too young?

The color of the top means nothing......not a damn thing.

My reasoning is that his natural GH production should still be high enough. As far as Blue tops goes is that those along with most of the other junk in the market is bunk or contains very little Gh or is 192 amino. The testing that proves the concentration, purity etc... very complicated and not something anyone can do. Gh is not something that any chinese guys can brew in their bath tub. I will post an article with some good info soon. There are ligit chinese brands out there. I think many people want to take short cuts and just want to load up with as much gear etc.. as possible. Im also sure that there are High school kids taking Gh but that does not make it right. If you want to look like an underwear model light gear and diet will do more for you.

Originally Posted by rss500

GOALS:

To get good advice from people in this forum, and try to look superhuman, while keeping my body as healthy as possible. Without overdoing it on AAS and all the other shit I put in my body. Be a world class boxer maybe? Do photo shoots, and look insanely good?

What are your goals Pahlevan?

I think you are too short for all of that!! lol.

Originally Posted by Pahlevan

My reasoning is that his natural GH production should still be high enough. As far as Blue tops goes is that those along with most of the other junk in the market is bunk or contains very little Gh or is 192 amino. The testing that proves the concentration, purity etc... very complicated and not something anyone can do. Gh is not something that any chinese guys can brew in their bath tub. I will post an article with some good info soon. There are ligit chinese brands out there. I think many people want to take short cuts and just want to load up with as much gear etc.. as possible. Im also sure that there are High school kids taking Gh but that does not make it right. If you want to look like an underwear model light gear and diet will do more for you.

At 27 his natural GH is declining at a rapid pace, so no, he's not too young in my opinion.

I find it interesting that a Physique Competitor would even need or try GH for that type of "look."

GH usually comes after years upon years of ---->natural training --->AAS induced training ----> AAS + GH----->SLIN/AAS/GH etc etc

I think you could save some MAJOR cash and get your physique ready for the PHYSIQUE stage just on some mild AAS , no need to use compounds to create anything freaky.

-Matt

I don't know. I'm overwhelming myself with too many things I want to do, too fast. I am gonna give HGH a run soon, once I pay for an order and it ships. Money wise, I've been devoting allot into supplements, aas, etc. Just another addiction. Need to focus on the diet most importantly, and figure out what's right for me I guess?

Mostly, what I really need in my training program, and what I could go without. Picking and choosing, with a budget, begins to suck.

Getting advice has been helping, thankfully

Originally Posted by XYZ

What is the ultimate goal here?

I have a IGF des 1,3 1mg vial, and I have seen the other peptides around. With me trying to stay on a budget, should I incorporate a peptide in there like the GHRP2? So maybe I'll buy some more IGF, I guess I need to educate myself more on IGF, and the other peptides that I can take while cycling of Aas first. Starting on some Clomid today.

I don't work out for a day, and I wake up with sweat everywhere in the middle of the night. My body just has to sweat. fuck

Originally Posted by pieguy

Even though it's already been said, a good bluetop hgh is worth every penny. You are not too young for HGH and HGH + AAS is an amazing combination and leaning one out while adding quality mass. HGH is renowned for it's hyperplasia in muscle cells and when combined with AAS, can cause a ton of growth, especially when you're passed your genetic limit.

Most people take around 5iu minimum a day on cycle or 10iu every other day and it makes a world of difference, especially during low calorie times. You can also use less HGH (3-4iu) and add in GHRP2/ipa/ghrp6+cjc1295 w/o dac pre-bed and igf-lr3/des pre-workout. GHRP/CJC's are quite cost effective but HGH and IGF aren't, so do what your wallet allows and eat a shitload considering hgh/igf make gaining fat pretty damn difficult.

What age did you start HGH at? or if you never have ran HGH, what is the average age people start? I've been active in sports my whole life/an elite boxer for some time now. Getting old is getting there. Sports are on hold now, due to this kind of training.

I actually would like to maybe look or try to compete in the physique competition, and look like a body builder and come in second place, because I'm not natural looking as the other competitors? Idk

The other thing is, I haven't been training with weights that long. maybe a year. The whole boxing/cardio/diet thing over the years, with moderate lifting has kept me grounded with my body type, never gaining like i've wanted it too. That's why I want that to change.

Yes, the diet and training/rest naturally need to come into place before all the supplements do, so who knows. Just need to start reading books on this shit, and devote free time into learning how to do what I want to achieve I guess.

Originally Posted by MattPorter

I find it interesting that a Physique Competitor would even need or try GH for that type of "look."

GH usually comes after years upon years of ---->natural training --->AAS induced training ----> AAS + GH----->SLIN/AAS/GH etc etc

I think you could save some MAJOR cash and get your physique ready for the PHYSIQUE stage just on some mild AAS , no need to use compounds to create anything freaky.

-Matt

Yeah I am too short for all of that, that's why I am hoping HGH helps me grow 3 inches in height!

Originally Posted by Pahlevan

I think you are too short for all of that!! lol.

I don't know what I want to do? I graduate college this month with a bachelors in Hospitality Management, so maybe I'll find a good 9 to 5 soon, and I can kiss my dreams of hard training for all this other shit I'm in goodbye.

Interesting in reading your article about the Chinese brands. If I had the money at that, I would prob. send my shit in and get it tested to see if its legit. But Z's shit is good to go, someone on here posted, so that's a start.

Looking for HGH deals, on a budget though, have to pick and choose unfortunately

Originally Posted by Pahlevan

My reasoning is that his natural GH production should still be high enough. As far as Blue tops goes is that those along with most of the other junk in the market is bunk or contains very little Gh or is 192 amino. The testing that proves the concentration, purity etc... very complicated and not something anyone can do. Gh is not something that any chinese guys can brew in their bath tub. I will post an article with some good info soon. There are ligit chinese brands out there. I think many people want to take short cuts and just want to load up with as much gear etc.. as possible. Im also sure that there are High school kids taking Gh but that does not make it right. If you want to look like an underwear model light gear and diet will do more for you.

Originally Posted by rss500

I have a IGF des 1,3 1mg vial, and I have seen the other peptides around. With me trying to stay on a budget, should I incorporate a peptide in there like the GHRP2? So maybe I'll buy some more IGF, I guess I need to educate myself more on IGF, and the other peptides that I can take while cycling of Aas first. Starting on some Clomid today.

I don't work out for a day, and I wake up with sweat everywhere in the middle of the night. My body just has to sweat. fuck

imo GHRP 2 or 6 is great with MOD GRF 100mcg 3x daily. Add in some GH with AAS and you are set.

otherwise the use of injectable insulin is not needed if you use a eatplan that raises natural insulin by means of high GI carbo's or just plain sugar. In that case the use of creatine is very benficial too. Most users tend to combine CJC and GHRP.

Originally Posted by rss500

What age did you start HGH at? or if you never have ran HGH, what is the average age people start? I've been active in sports my whole life/an elite boxer for some time now. Getting old is getting there. Sports are on hold now, due to this kind of training.

I actually would like to maybe look or try to compete in the physique competition, and look like a body builder and come in second place, because I'm not natural looking as the other competitors? Idk

The other thing is, I haven't been training with weights that long. maybe a year. The whole boxing/cardio/diet thing over the years, with moderate lifting has kept me grounded with my body type, never gaining like i've wanted it too. That's why I want that to change.

Yes, the diet and training/rest naturally need to come into place before all the supplements do, so who knows. Just need to start reading books on this shit, and devote free time into learning how to do what I want to achieve I guess.

You can definitely compete at physique without using alot of cash on AAS in big doses and GH etc...

In all honesty -- AAS alone (tren ace) could get you P%ssy pulling, awesome chiseled physique without peptides, gh etc...

Like I said, it should be added if you are at a high level or want to get to the high level of BB'ing or have maxed out the usage of aas alone.

You'll get there man -- just keep busting ass.

-Matt