Thread: how are prohormones safer than d bol?

Originally Posted by TGB1987

All depends on the product you choose. As others have said there are 17aa prohormones (actually are steroids) then you have non methlylated prohormones most of which have little effect. There are a couple that are ok but not too many worth using. If you are not ready for Testosterone you are better off staying away from steroids as Brundel has stated. You can use Supplements that are not Steroids and try to get as far as you can naturally then when you are more knowledged and have a good base. You can then make the choice as to whether you want to take it to that level. Stick with the basics until then and do more reading than posting. Slowly you will pick up more and more and will be able to contribute to helping others. IF you have questions you can 't find the answers to then post it but check the forum search first to see if it has been asked before. Stick around and you will learn everything you need to know.

thanks alot bro as always, and sorry just when i get a headache after searching sticcy's and shit for hr after hr day after day i say fucc it its easier to post a thread. sorry for taking up internet space bro. also thanks for the support man your awesome

Originally Posted by heavyiron

You should take up smoking.

why so i'll die lol?

thanks man

Originally Posted by Calves of Steel

Easy guys he said he's not going to take them. You'll find more people out there promoting oral PH's on their own than dbol only cycles. I think the reason for that stems from the fact that dbol is illegal. Some might feel that if you're going to go out of your way to get something illegal from the black market, your expectations of it should be better than that of a legal prohormone. Both will shut you down though, some worse than others. Test boosters are intended to help your body produce more testosterone, and that way you wouldn't be shut down. The jury is still out on whether or not any of the over the counter ones actually work though.

Originally Posted by sofargone561

if he wasnt going to do them he would stop asking questions on AAS and PH's and ask about training and diet and supplimnents and in his free time read about AAS and PH. this guy clearly wants someone to spoon feed him the sdhit he wants to hear. ok ill do it them. go get SDMZ and run it 2 caps a day for 4 weeks with Advanced cycle support and clomid for PCT then stop asking stupid shit thanks bro

thats was my question if you wasn't being such a dick you woulda realized that. people like you tell me run SDMZ... wouldnt it be better gains with dbol, cycle support, clomid or nolva for pct? if SDMZ has same effects (problem wise)

Super DMZ blows away d-bol in every area mg for mg. Its for big boys though so you may need to wait a few years.

Its definitely NOT for you.

so your telling me DMZ gives you better gains. and if you recommend i wait then i shall do so but i need a natural boost bro i'm bustin my ass down here

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Super DMZ blows away d-bol in every area mg for mg. Its for big boys though so you may need to wait a few years.

Its definitely NOT for you.

Originally Posted by gettinbig40

so your telling me DMZ gives you better gains. and if you recommend i wait then i shall do so but i need a natural boost bro i'm bustin my ass down here

Yes Super DMZ contains two of the strongest steroids around. SDMZ is no joke.

You should use the D-bol first but your diet and training are likely in need of improvement before you run anything..

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Yes Super DMZ contains two of the strongest steroids around. SDMZ is no joke.

You should use the D-bol first but your diet and training are likely in need of improvement before you run anything..

k thanks man i will

Originally Posted by gettinbig40

i am 20 years of age i am 5 foot 6 at 130 pounds bench 135 x10, 155x7 170x5, 185 x 5. been weight training for almost a year now. yea weak but not bad for my size. anything else you wana kno? hardly any body fat i could post a pic if it helps. and thanks for the info matt. no ive never used steroids i have d bol sittin in my nightstand but am not taking them til i can't gain anymore naturally. according to some people i should rather look into legal pro hormones to help me naturally, thats why i was asking to make sure i was right on it still messing with my natty test so i dont take them? right? like i said if i think i kno something i'm gona post it to make sure i'm right instead of goin by wat the bullshit internet tells me

You say you are super lean -- that is great as I would hope you are considering your weight. You do have height in your favor, since you will fill out faster than someone 6 foot.

On a serious note - Dbol is safer than superdrol, DMZ, boladrol etc...

Dianabol is still risky and NOT an ideal first cycle. The gains just are NOT maintainable -- oral only cycles usually equal temporary build up of ionic fluid within the skin and muscles causing temporary "blow up" effect that will immediately dissipate and leave people at your gym saying "what happened, your getting small."

Not great for the head --- I would keep pounding heavy iron, get you weight up to a solid -- meaning lean 155 or more, then maybe consider something. If OTC I would say do AndroSeries v3 as its non methylated, orally active, dosed once a day and will minimize hpta suppression.

If you stay black market - testosterone only is common but not mandatory. Tren acetate dosed super low would grow you lean from the inside out!

Alot to consider here.

-Matt

Originally Posted by MattPorter

You say you are super lean -- that is great as I would hope you are considering your weight. You do have height in your favor, since you will fill out faster than someone 6 foot.

On a serious note - Dbol is safer than superdrol, DMZ, boladrol etc...

Dianabol is still risky and NOT an ideal first cycle. The gains just are NOT maintainable -- oral only cycles usually equal temporary build up of ionic fluid within the skin and muscles causing temporary "blow up" effect that will immediately dissipate and leave people at your gym saying "what happened, your getting small."

Not great for the head --- I would keep pounding heavy iron, get you weight up to a solid -- meaning lean 155 or more, then maybe consider something. If OTC I would say do AndroSeries v3 as its non methylated, orally active, dosed once a day and will minimize hpta suppression.

If you stay black market - testosterone only is common but not mandatory. Tren acetate dosed super low would grow you lean from the inside out!

Alot to consider here.

-Matt

k i am waiting. still geting more info and weight on before is start a cycle. but to put it short androseries v3 is good for otc even for d bol? sorry i just like to make sure i dont read ppl's advice wrong

Originally Posted by gettinbig40

k i am waiting. still geting more info and weight on before is start a cycle. but to put it short androseries v3 is good for otc even for d bol? sorry i just like to make sure i dont read ppl's advice wrong

In my HONEST opinion, and I hope guys here understand this -- I truly feel dianabol ONLY cycle would be WORSE than something of Androbulk or AndroMass
(which are test and nandrolone base cycles)

Due to Dbol causing that temporary cosmetic water weight gain and since its methylated you wont run it for 8+ weeks to accrue appreciable myofibrillar-dense muscle tissue.

Also the more harsh suppression will leave you looking like a "blow up doll" from instant GAIn to instant DEFLATE to your peers as stated before.

At least with Andro - you can not stress organs, dose once a day and not overly suppress LH and FSH function and still make great gains as others have.

Now when it comes to a tren acetate cycle...NOPE - Andro will not compare as tren acetate is a special beast that is in its own dimension.

-Matt

Originally Posted by MattPorter

In my HONEST opinion, and I hope guys here understand this -- I truly feel dianabol ONLY cycle would be WORSE than something of Androbulk or AndroMass
(which are test and nandrolone base cycles)

Due to Dbol causing that temporary cosmetic water weight gain and since its methylated you wont run it for 8+ weeks to accrue appreciable myofibrillar-dense muscle tissue.

Also the more harsh suppression will leave you looking like a "blow up doll" from instant GAIn to instant DEFLATE to your peers as stated before.

At least with Andro - you can not stress organs, dose once a day and not overly suppress LH and FSH function and still make great gains as others have.

Now when it comes to a tren acetate cycle...NOPE - Andro will not compare as tren acetate is a special beast that is in its own dimension.

-Matt

so your saying i will see good gains from andromass or androbulk without suppressing my natty test levels too bad?

Originally Posted by gettinbig40

so your saying i will see good gains from andromass or androbulk without suppressing my natty test levels too bad?

That is what I am saying due to the case studies we performed on beta testers of the products before release.

Check this one out here - Kalen Daniel AndroMass v3

Of course the average results were ranging from 8-10lbs with shittier genetic testers. Kalen was an exception and gained alot more than others.

One thing that the bloods revealed was lh & fsh were still in low/noirmal ranges while on cycle.

-Matt

Originally Posted by MattPorter

That is what I am saying due to the case studies we performed on beta testers of the products before release.

Check this one out here - Kalen Daniel AndroMass v3

Of course the average results were ranging from 8-10lbs with shittier genetic testers. Kalen was an exception and gained alot more than others.

One thing that the bloods revealed was lh & fsh were still in low/noirmal ranges while on cycle.

-Matt

k i will check into andromass or androbulk. how long would it take to put on 8-10 pounds with a good diet would you think? and with proper training i mean. i also posted a new thread about natural shit if anyone could get me in a routine with the supplements i already have as far as when to take them to get best results if you wouldnt mind checking it out. thanks alot for everything man. also would it be alright if i started andromass right now considering i'm 130 pounds at 20 yrs old? have great training routine i can post a picture if you'd like

I would wait man.....

Keep stressing all facets of growth naturally until you are 21-22 at least. You got more natural growth in you!

Yes I believe you can gain 8-10 lbs and more like 20 more lbs before hitting the genetic threshold.

-Matt

Originally Posted by gettinbig40

thanks man and yea i dont remember who but they told me not to take d bol but dmz when shit is just as bad for my test? i'm new to this world and this is the internet so i can post wat i want to learn. anyone who doesnt like it doesnt have to read my threads. i'm here to learn not take up internet space. and if i do kno somethin i may post it to make sure i actually kno it and not just think i kno it. not you bro thanks alot for your useful post unlike many others

As others have stated, you can learn a lot by simply READING and using the search function.

Originally Posted by Curt James

As others have stated, you can learn a lot by simply READING and using the search function.

as i have stated, you clearly do not have to click on my threads brother. i'm here for info not to keep lookin at ppl like yours post that doesnt tell me a thing. useful info would be nice. and i got my info idk how to delete the thread tho or i would