Cycle was 20 weeks long.sus/eq/tren e.i ran an ai and hcg during cycle but still had ed so i used viagra.im 2 weeks into pct currently doing 100mg of clomid per day and cilias every other day but it doesnt work as good as viagra.im thinking of adding my ai back in to help with the estrogen.any suggestions of something that would help?
are you using legit cialis or a UG liquid cialis , a good friend of mine who is a little older than me , hes 41 , gets ed everytime he comes off of a cycle and he tried alot of different things and nothing worked till he came across some legit cialis , now he loves it
yeah that could be the problem its research.i have been reading that an ai at 25mg ed kills your sex drive.i have never heard that.what bout adding nolva
it is pill form btw
Last edited by PHILLIPGTAC22; 12-08-2011 at 11:19 AM.
yea same boat bro, 3 weeks in pct from test e, c and dbol front and back and I could care less about the cooter, crazy...I think my manhood even shrunk ...aromasin fuked me, first test cycle with no ai was much quicker recovery, ed and libido wise anyway
I have no desire to run tren e for this reason. Even a week after dropping tren ace I still had sides. I'm 5 weeks into PCT and everything is looking good.
You're not going to recover from a 20 week cycle in two weeks period.
IT TAKES TIME. In your case it could be 6-8 weeks.
You also used tren, which is VERY difficult to recover from quickly.
This^^ that's a supremely suppressive cycle. Gonna take time, patience, and consistency with pct to recover. If you are still having problems in 6 weeks get some bloods and go from there.
I have no desire to run tren e for this reason. Even a week after dropping tren ace I still had sides. I'm 5 weeks into PCT and everything is looking good.
Well I haven't been in the gym for 1.5 weeks but when I was in there I kept a lot of my strength. I just can't do as many reps. Weight has dropped a little bit. But that's to be expected.
My mainstay is to just say no to long estered 19-nors...
Originally Posted by PHILLIPGTAC22
should i just continue clomid or add nolva or an ai to assist?
Yes you need to complete your PCT, which should have included an AI like Aromasin. At this point, I would just continue the clomid therapy on a taper like 100/100/75/50. After this, it is best to let your body begin to recover naturally.
Did you run your test a week or two longer than the Tren?
My mainstay is to just say no to long estered 19-nors...
Or any really for me anyhow.
I think from now on it's just going to be very high doses of test with an oral here or there. Fu*king around with all of these different compounds is just a crap shoot most of the time anyhow. It all comes down to diet, and I can control that, (well for the most part....sometimes the "bad" foods just need to be hammered down).
I'm 12 days into my PCT coming off Prop/Mast/Tren A cycle and everything was fantastic for the 50+ days I was on. Never had any libido issues, running 50mg Prop/Mast and 75mg Tren A ED. While on cycle I was taking 12.5mg Aromasin EOD, 250iu HCG twice per week along with Caber twice per week. Increased my HCG to 500iu's ED for 5 days after last pin and ended it when I started PCT. I upped the Aromasin to 25mg with my Clomid for PCT and I swear my shit got smaller and refuses to come out. I watched the entire Victoria Secrets special and dont think I got hard once. I'm totally depressed!!!
hope u didnt go crazy with the hcg while on cycle.... too much of that stuff is worse than not using it at all. esp if u ran it for most of the cycle...
Just finish up your PCT as planned and give yourself a month or two to recover. Go get your blood taken. If you are really worried about it, 60bucks isn't shit in the long run.
You don't run Proviron during PCT...it is a steroid and will be suppressive to your HPTA.[/QUOTE]
"up to 100-150mgs/day it has no depressing effect on low to normal serum FSH and LH levels (2). In fact, if your natural hormonal levels are depressed, it may even be able to raise LH (3), which can then raise your natural testosterone levels."
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