Run and Gun AAS Cycling – A power approach to success. - OldSchoolLifter

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-08-2011, 08:37 PM

Run and Gun AAS Cycling – A power approach to success.
By OldSchoolLifter

Over the years the use of aas has evolved into a direct science, more is known now of what each compound does compare to when Arnold was practicing. In the day, cycles consisted of very little if any test, high amounts of nandrolone, and low dose dbol for long periods alongside anadrol. NO PCT, now we have evolved and the end result is much bigger bodybuilders.

This has been talked about a few times, but never has someone gone into how they would use this approach to cycling a run and gun method.

The Protocol

Run and Gun means you blast with short esters for no longer than 5-6 weeks, cruise for the same exact time you blasted for, and repeat! This keeps myostatin at a low as well as cortisol, and never gives it a chance to rise, leaving you able to gain quick gains in 5-6 weeks, then hold them while you cruise only to gain more on the next run and gun.

In some recent questions to some of the most seasoned vets I know, I asked each of them the same questions, Keep in mind all have used long cycles with long breaks, and used run and gun type methods. The result was that more users reported more quality gains, less sides, and more manageable and keepable gains while doing short blasts and cruises, compared to long drawn out cycles and recovery times.

Pound for Pound, they gained more with the run and Gun, than with longer cycles, in a standard winter bulk of say 15-20 weeks body builders will gain 15-20lbs or more depending on where they are in their body building careers. But if you break the 20 weeks into 2 Blast cycles followed by a cruise and repeat, gains will never stall like at week 10, and you should gain more weight with the 2 blasts compared to the one long run.

What you need

2-3 Fast acting Injectables, they are paramount as you will be blast for 5-6 weeks and you want them to kick in as fast as possible.
Test Prop
Tren Ace
Mast Prop
NPP
TNE

Are all good choices of shorter acting injectable to add to your cycle.

1-2 Orals to gain quick size and create a higher anabolic environment.
Dbol
Anadrol
M1T
Super Drol
Var ( at high doses 100mg )
Winstrol
And so on.

Sample Cycle :
1-6 Test Prop 75-100mg/ed
1-5 NPP 50-75mg/ed
1-6 Dbol 30mg/ed
1-6 Anadrol 50mg/ed

Week 7 Cruise for 6 weeks on 200-300mg test and repeat with another.

During the blasts make sure to use your AI’s more frequently, and dedicate those 5 weeks to pure commitment, and you will make some incredible gains in such a short period. That not only will stay with you, but keep you progressing along without hitting plateaus. This will also allow you to blast more frequently, and recover faster because of the short duration.

Your body is your temple, Experiment, Train, and Document, find what works, and stick to it. My findings and personal experience shows, that this above WORKS!

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**Vibrant** · 12-08-2011, 08:54 PM

Dammit OSL, stop it with the great posts

lol, great post as usual, keep em coming

**SUPERFLY1234** · 12-08-2011, 08:57 PM

so blast for 6, cruise for 6, blast for 6 weeks more , than pct? i think with a combo of dbol and abombs alone will make you gain 20lbs. i guess recovery should be the same as a long cycle? would you throw in hcg?

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-08-2011, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Vibrant

Dammit OSL, stop it with the great posts

lol, great post as usual, keep em coming

Thank you Sir! lol

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

so blast for 6, cruise for 6, blast for 6 weeks more , than pct? i think with a combo of dbol and abombs alone will make you gain 20lbs. i guess recovery should be the same as a long cycle? would you throw in hcg?

This method is more for guys who cruise and don't PCT or are on TRT, but I have seen cases were guys Blast for 6, Cruise for 6 Blast for 6 then PCT and recover just fine.

HCG could be used, I dont use it however. Dbol combined with Abombs creates a very synergistic affect.

Also another idea would be to blast 90-100mg Var along side 30mg dbol for 6 weeks. That is magical.

**rage racing** · 12-08-2011, 09:16 PM

Fantastis post OSL

. You never cease to amaze me with your insight.

**Pitbull44** · 12-08-2011, 09:17 PM

Good post OSL. I have only done acouple of cycles and am not seasoned as some on here. Would you reccommend the run and gun method to someone like myself?

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-08-2011, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Pitbull44

Good post OSL. I have only done acouple of cycles and am not seasoned as some on here. Would you reccommend the run and gun method to someone like myself?

I would try it, Run and gun, and repeat, then PCT and you should recover fine.

It may bring a whole new dynamic to the way you cycle. Like I said Your body is your temple, Experiment, Train, and Document, find what works, and stick to it

**Pitbull44** · 12-08-2011, 09:24 PM

Thanks bro

**bigbenj** · 12-08-2011, 09:26 PM

The name just sounds badass!

**KUVinny** · 12-08-2011, 10:12 PM

Nice writeup OSL,

For the cruise would you recommend switching to a longer ester test? And if not how would one is on year round TRT incorporate this strategy?

**Digitalash** · 12-08-2011, 10:15 PM

^ I think you could just stay on your 250mg 1x a week or whatever and adjust your short ester test's dosage to account for it, so you still pin the long ester while you're blasting and then just drop the short esters to cruise?

**EATSCHILDREN** · 12-08-2011, 10:57 PM

Another thing to look forward to when I'm old and cruising. Sweet concept and good write up osl.

**Usealittle** · 12-08-2011, 11:21 PM

So..... This is your verson of how to run SHIC'S.

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-09-2011, 06:11 AM

You can start your once weekly 250mg Test E injection at the start of the blast then by time your done blasting you can continue your once weekly injections for your cruise.

Who is SHIC's?

**swollen** · 12-09-2011, 06:30 AM

Nice post OSL.., will definitly give this a try! :-)

**hypno** · 12-09-2011, 06:48 AM

**Chino007** · 12-09-2011, 07:03 AM

Humm nice I want to give it a run!!

**saintol** · 12-09-2011, 07:42 AM

nice post

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-09-2011, 08:31 AM

Thank you Another example would be with TNE

Another cycle.
1-6 Test Prop 75-100mg/ed
1-4 TNE 75-100mg/ed
1-6 Var 80-100mg/ed
1-6 Dbol 30mg/ed

**Mkpaint** · 12-09-2011, 11:20 AM

getting ready for my first cycle what do you think of 250 test e for say 16 weeks with 2 5 week blast of 250 test prop?
43 years old
5'8"
1 year training
will be at 15%bf when i start
186lbs right now

**Usealittle** · 12-09-2011, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter

You can start your once weekly 250mg Test E injection at the start of the blast then by time your done blasting you can continue your once weekly injections for your cruise.

Who is SHIC's?

a SHIC is

Short
High
intensity
Cycle

witch is a blast cruise method.

**J.thom** · 12-09-2011, 11:55 AM

nice!

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-09-2011, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Usealittle

a SHIC is

Short
High
intensity
Cycle

witch is a blast cruise method.

Thank you! Didn't know about it I guess this is my take on the shic principle

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**thekidtosho** · 12-09-2011, 12:36 PM

awesome post.......gonna gun it next week

**Digitalash** · 12-09-2011, 12:38 PM

TNE + tren + superdrol (or dmz), someone try this blast for me lol

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-09-2011, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Digitalash

TNE + tren + superdrol (or dmz), someone try this blast for me lol

1-5 TNE 100mg/ed
1-5 Tren Ace 50-75mg/ed
1-4 superdmz 3 caps daily

Bam!!
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**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-10-2011, 07:48 AM

1-5 Test Prop 100mg/ed
1-5 Tren Ace 50-75mg/ed
1-5 Winstrol 50mg
1-3 Dbol 30mg/ed

**Pitbull44** · 12-15-2011, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter

1-5 Test Prop 100mg/ed
1-5 Tren Ace 50-75mg/ed
1-5 Winstrol 50mg
1-3 Dbol 30mg/ed

I like this!!

**Pitbull44** · 12-15-2011, 06:56 PM

What would pct look like if you were to do this?

**joedel** · 12-15-2011, 07:43 PM

this seems like a great concept.... pincushion time !

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