any experience with primo?

**banker23** · 12-09-2011, 09:42 AM

Kind of starting to plan 2nd cycle for sometime in 2012 and I was re-reading HI's first cycle advice to calculate how much test I would need ramping it up at week 6 and week 9 per his recommendations.

I want to add in primo on this cycle (which may be my last one). I am thinking 300mg twice a week. The question are: do I need to ramp up primo throughout the cycle to continue to see benefits as with the test?

Also: is 10 weeks long enough to benefit from Primo at these dosages (some people say it takes a long time to kick in)? GMO kind of answered this tangentially in another thread but I can't remember if we discussed anything this short.

Lastly: is 600 mg weekly enough?

Looking for recommendations here. The only differences from this and my current cycle will be ramping up the test dose twice (versus once) and the primo. I will still use dbol as a kicker but probably bump the dose from 40mg to 50-60 mg. I may also bring it back for weeks 8-10 to finish out the cycle.

Like I said this will probably be my last cycle (I turn 39 in 2012) so I want to make it as productive as possible.

Current stats (for the stat nazis):
5'10", 252 lbs. bf% has increased about 5% while on cycle (from 15 to 20% roughly), overall weight went from 240 to almost 260 and dropped back down to 252 after dropping the dbol after first 30 days. I am in week 6 of current 10 week cycle and will be bumping to 750 mg test next week to finish out last 4 weeks.

Plan to use weeks 7-10 of current cycle to lean out some before starting PCT. I hit my lean mass and strength goals already so I will continue to push the weights as heavy as I can while running about a 500 calorie deficit to take advantage of the AAS. I will bump the calories back up in PCT to maintenance or higher to hold onto the lean mass before I decide to diet down again.

I plan to diet down to 225-230 and below 15% before starting the proposed second cycle.

**GMO** · 12-09-2011, 09:48 AM

Primo is an enanthate ester, so you're looking at 3-4 weeks, depending on the individual. It is one of my favorite steroids, but I would avoid underground preparations of it, as it is widely counterfeited and substituted with other compounds. I would stick to the bayer-shering amps if I were you.

As far as dosage is concerned 600mg/wk is the very minimum I would run. If you got the money I would go with 800mg/wk, but 600mg should yield decent results. If your BF% is low enough, it will make you hard and vascular like nothing else.

**banker23** · 12-09-2011, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by GMO

Primo is an enanthate ester, so you're looking at 3-4 weeks, depending on the individual. It is one of my favorite steroids, but I would avoid underground preparations of it, as it is widely counterfeited and substituted with other compounds. I would stick to the bayer-shering amps if I were you.

As far as dosage is concerned 600mg/wk is the very minimum I would run. If you got the money I would go with 800mg/wk, but 600mg should yield decent results. If your BF% is low enough, it will make you hard and vascular like nothing else.

I will use schering all the way but thanks for the warning.

so 400 mg twice a week from beginning to end would be what you recommend to get the most out of this cycle. I am thinking I may need to start hitting some different sites to get that much volume injected (I've been getting away with rotating left to right on thighs and glutes).

I am thinking I will need to break up 400 mg twice weekly as such: maybe 2ml to a thigh or glute, then split up 2 1 ml injections to the bis or delts. What's the narrowest gauge pin that can handle primo (I hear it's thick but if I'm hitting smaller leaner areas, I'd like to get away with a slin pin if I could)

**GMO** · 12-09-2011, 10:08 AM

Yeah, that is the issue with primo and most preparations of EQ. You end up pushing A LOT of oil. More frequent injections may make it easier, but it really comes down to individual preference. I'm on an ED pinning schedule anyway because of my Tren A, so I pin my EQ 3-4x/wk. That way I never have to push more than 3cc's per inject.

**stone14** · 12-13-2011, 05:51 AM

i no a guy who ran 2g per weeksays was best cycle he had ever ran...... prob bankrupt him also lol

**banker23** · 12-13-2011, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by stone14

i no a guy who ran 2g per weeksays was best cycle he had ever ran...... prob bankrupt him also lol

...you know a guy...20ml a week...best cycle he ever ran...

...and this thread is officially dead.

No one will post a legit response in here after this nugget of wisdom.

**chucky1** · 12-13-2011, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by banker23

...you know a guy...20ml a week...best cycle he ever ran...

...and this thread is officially dead.

No one will post a legit response in here after this nugget of wisdom.

**stone14** · 12-13-2011, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by banker23

...you know a guy...20ml a week...best cycle he ever ran...

...and this thread is officially dead.

No one will post a legit response in here after this nugget of wisdom.

its was 200mg so 10ml a week, thats easy.... anyway whats the problem with my post?

**banker23** · 12-13-2011, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by stone14

its was 200mg so 10ml a week, thats easy.... anyway whats the problem with my post?

you said 2 g not 200 mg...that's 2000mg bro (or 20ml). A mg is 1/1000 of a g...so 200 mg would only be 2 ml/week not 10 so the second post is incorrect as well. Primo is dosed at 100mg/ml. Anything dosed differently and I would be more suspicious than normal. 10 ml would still be 1000mg (1g) which is probably doable for someone who's cycled it before but probably not for a first time primo user.

The only thing wrong with the post is I was looking for people with experience with primo to answer. Knowing a guy who's told you he's used it in the past is not experience. If you were interested in Primo yourself and asked relevant questions that would broaden understanding of how to use it that would be fine but posts like that tend to signal the end of a thread's lifespan.

Sorry if it seemed like I was calling you out..I see you're new so I assume you are trying to get your posts up high enough so you can make better use of the site.

**BigBird** · 12-13-2011, 11:55 AM

I reaped the benefits from authentic Bayer Schering Primo at 500mg EW for around 10 weeks I think. I would not have gone less than 500mg. Effects were indeed noticeable. I dream of what 700-800mg EW would've been like. I had already completed a body recomp phase when I ran the Primo so it's highly advisable to start it when your BF is low to moderately low; that is, no higher than 11-12% MAX. Very nice aesthetic appearance to the physique and strength increases were quite noticeable. I continued my reduced-calorie diet throughout the end of Primo. The stuff is awesome but I would NOT recommend doing any Primo other than the real Bayer Schering. Oil was a little think but I could've used a 25 gauge. I mostly used a 23 ga. 1" or 1-1/2" for deeper deposit. Drew out from ampules with a 22 ga.

**stone14** · 12-13-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by banker23

you said 2 g not 200 mg...that's 2000mg bro (or 20ml). A mg is 1/1000 of a g...so 200 mg would only be 2 ml/week not 10 so the second post is incorrect as well. Primo is dosed at 100mg/ml. Anything dosed differently and I would be more suspicious than normal. 10 ml would still be 1000mg (1g) which is probably doable for someone who's cycled it before but probably not for a first time primo user.

The only thing wrong with the post is I was looking for people with experience with primo to answer. Knowing a guy who's told you he's used it in the past is not experience. If you were interested in Primo yourself and asked relevant questions that would broaden understanding of how to use it that would be fine but posts like that tend to signal the end of a thread's lifespan.

Sorry if it seemed like I was calling you out..I see you're new so I assume you are trying to get your posts up high enough so you can make better use of the site.

yeh i ment 2g, he had 2g/2000mg a week, his primo was 200mg/ml.

im new to this forum but not to aas

and ok dude

**TGB1987** · 12-14-2011, 01:25 AM

I used some Primo at 400mgs per week with Test at 200mgs per week for a good 10 weeks for a light cycle and had good results. It was not a huge gainer cycle but it did help me harden up and increase lean bodymass as well as strength. The Bayer Schering Primo is amazing. The amps are super thick too they are hard to snap the top off of but they break really clean. I used a 20G to draw and a 25G to inject. I injected nearly ed Mon, wed , fri, Sat. did a .5 cc of Test on mon and Fri day with the primo. Very light cycle but still noticed results. I plan on using the rest of my Primo for a precontest Stack in March with some Winny, and of course Test. As the other guys said stick with a quality brand of Primo from a reputable Sponser or source. THere are a lot of counterfeits out there of the Bayer Schering. Real Primo is one of the hardest AAS to come by and when you do find real Primo it will be costly in most cases. Good Luck this is one of the best Anabolics available.

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