Thread: HGH & Test Help Please

You are going to need a LOT more test if you are looking to git bigger bro. 2gr of test will last me 2 weeks, others maybe 4 weeks. You need a lot more.

The HGH will help with your energy, libido, vascularity, etc. But to use it for the purpose of gaining mass, you need a lot more.

Be sure to have everything on hand and extra before starting. Good luck.



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I have scrip for 3 refills but I think I figured out banner sponsors for source to get more. If you could PM me for sure that would be great but if you cant I understand. How much do you recc in IUs a day for GH and how much test a week?? I will get the amount needed before I start.

Thanks again

sorry for double post-- I guess I didnt catch the wait for moderator review on 1st post

2000 isnt enough. im currently at 500mg every week. please listen to vistor DO NO START until you know exactly what you running and for how long alos DO NOT STARt until you have it all in you hands!

I'm with you sofargone. Not planning on starting til Feb. I'll have 3 bottles of test accum by then from my prescription. Hopefully more if I find a good Internet supplier. How much test u recc starting with a week. (once a week or twice). How long min I need to use etc. please help with how much I need to round up before I start.

Thanks

Originally Posted by sooner918

I'm with you sofargone. Not planning on starting til Feb. I'll have 3 bottles of test accum by then from my prescription. Hopefully more if I find a good Internet supplier. How much test u recc starting with a week. (once a week or twice). How long min I need to use etc. please help with how much I need to round up before I start.

Thanks

I recomend 500mg or so every week. If your using a long estr test such as test E then split it up into 2/250mg shots a week. id say for 10-12 weeks. Also i recomend Aromasin on hand for an AI and use that at 12.5mg EOD. for me EOD was not enough so i upped it to 12.5mg ED and now im gtg. for pct i recomend clomid and more aromasin. also give yourself time after your last inject for the esters to clear before starting PCT so about 1-2 weeks after last inject start PCT. Now i know you have said you have very low test levels. I think someone with more experiacne especially in cruising and TRT and shit should chime in here becuase maybe you shouldnt stop test after week 10 maybe you should just lower it? im not going to tell you that though as im unsure.

Read the stickies in this section. A ton of info in there. If you have questions after reading them, dont hesitate to ask.

Originally Posted by sofargone561

I recomend 500mg or so every week. If your using a long estr test such as test E then split it up into 2/250mg shots a week. id say for 10-12 weeks. Also i recomend Aromasin on hand for an AI and use that at 12.5mg EOD. for me EOD was not enough so i upped it to 12.5mg ED and now im gtg. for pct i recomend clomid and more aromasin. also give yourself time after your last inject for the esters to clear before starting PCT so about 1-2 weeks after last inject start PCT. Now i know you have said you have very low test levels. I think someone with more experiacne especially in cruising and TRT and shit should chime in here becuase maybe you shouldnt stop test after week 10 maybe you should just lower it? im not going to tell you that though as im unsure.

EDIT: as for the hgh i dont know shit about it sorry. and as stated ABOVE me read the STICKIES !

The script for the test c is for low t and should be run at the precribed amount non stop to keep your test levels in the normal range. Anything above that for bodybuilding would be in addition to that but that base dose of test c is forever. Any cycle you would run would be on top of that and at the end you would simply continue your base dose of test c. There is no need for pct since you rely on that dose of test c for your normal range. I would not use your watson test c for a cycle because you will need that for your hrt and these things are tightly controlled . Just getting your test in the normal range after being low will amaze you !!!! Plus the results from proper training and diet will really take off. I cannot overemphasise how getting that test back to normal will change your life !!!!! I know little about HGH so I differ to others. There is the matter of your blood tests for your doctor to continue your hrt, if you cycle right before it you would have very high T and that would screw everyhing up. This is a great site with many helpful people.Good luck !

l69lou Thank you so much, that helps alot. Got some great PM's and starting to round up gear. I would like to get all from 1 place seeing this will be my 1st order and nervous as all get out. Is there a substitute for the aromasin as I have not found it at the recc gear stores???

Are you just starting on this prescribed test? At what dosage do they have you? If you already workout and are just starting test you should be able to make decent gains with just that and diet. If you're looking to cycle I would get test from a sponsor and run 500mg per week with .25mg arimidex every or every other day (depending on whether you experience estrogenic side effects). After 10-12 weeks of that just resume your prescribed weekly dosage of test

Just started prescribed test yesterday. 200mg every 4 weeks. I was on androgel for some time with no results. I inquired about doing the shots myself and could not believe how much cheaper it was. With all your guys help my plan as of now is ===

HGH - 5ius ED (morning only is best 4 me) Get enough for at least 6 mo
Test Cyp- 500mg 1 shot per week & my prescribed 200mg every 4 weeks.
Still not sure on what & how much I need for the AI and PCT.

Any feedback on my plan so I can get gear ordered is much appreciated.

wow 200mg every 4 weeks sounds pretty bad, your levels will be all over the place. I would switch to 50mg every week though that sounds kinda low to me. Hopefully they will up your dosage but if you feel good on that that's up to you. If you don't mind getting some test yourself I'd try for something like 125mg per week personally, again that's all up to you and how you feel I'm just putting it out there.


Anyway for an AI arimidex at .25mg every day or every other day should suffice while on 500mg per week. Aromasin would be another option and probably a bit better, since you won't need to pct it may not be worth the extra cost though some guys swear by it. Since you will be "cruising" or resuming trt you don't need to do a pct, which is pretty nice

You can get by pinning 500mg once per week, most guys here will split it into 2x injections of 250mg per week though. Keeps blood levels more stable which is a good thing

Bro in your situation I would strongly recomend taking this one step at a time. It takes a little while to get your hrt dose figured out. I have not ever heard of someone on that low of a dose.This is done by trying a dose for a while and then getting blood tests to see where you are . If you cycle your test will be VERY high and would cause big problems with the doc. They are not stupid! Let your hrt dose get sorted out first. Take this time to read aND READ SOME MORE and get all your supplies. When you get your test to normal your results will amaze you. You may even decide that is as far as you need to take it.I went on hrt 2 years ago and I couldn't believe the results !!There are big advantages to having this done under a doctors care. You do have children ! If you decide to cycle I would make sure to stop at least 6 weeks before any blood tests with the doc. And do NOT stop your hrt dose of test during a cycle,the cycle would be in addition to it.Many of us do this but it requires some planning. I wish you well.

Originally Posted by l69lou

I have not ever heard of someone on that low of a dose.

Same here, that's nothing bro. You should really find another doc, that's a way below average dose for HRT. What were you original levels, how low where they...you should know if you don't?



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Victor-- Dont know really what they mean but Levels are:

Ref testos 34
sex hor bg 7
xfreetesto 9.3

There is 3 pages of blood work, dont know if you need more.

If the ref testos means total testosterone that would be extremely low. Mine was 75 and thats so bad !I am on 150mg/week to give you some idea.I don't know you or your situation so I am not saying that is what yours should be. Alot of doctors are sill very uncomfortable sripting test. Most are at the very least going to be conservative to start and that's ok. You mentioned you had no results with Andro gel. Maybe there is more to your story but as Victor said maybe you should consider getting another opinion. Edocrinologists and urologists both do this sort of thing along with many gegeral practices. As I said before if you do a cycle now you wont have the oportunity to get this issue resolved before you manipulate your levels on you own.

^^Great post l69lou!! If that is total free test of "34", you should be on something like 200mg/ew. Get another opinion bro. Find another endo or uro....and address/fix this issue before you run a cycle. Good luck.



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I understand what you guys are saying but I have been fighting this for over two yrs. switched drs 2 times. Yes I do have kids and that's what some of this is for. My quality of life sucks. Tired of fighting with ins & drs. Androgel felt like an expensive joke. No help at all. Going to dr once month for a shot did not help. Finally talked him into letting me do shots myself for expense purposes. (expense is not an issue)Just don't want to lose another yr or 2 while doc jacks around. That's why I'm here and asking for help in trying to take matters into my own hands. Guys pm'd some gear stores I think I'm gonna be comfortable with now I just wanna get comfortable with some EXPERT advice.