Is my estrogen to low or am i training to much?

**Junkboxer** · 12-10-2011, 01:55 PM

started my full cycle a week and a half ago. the protocol is:

wk1-12: 600mg Test cyp (gen-shi) *im bumping it up to 750mg next week
wk1-12: 50mg proviron (GP)
wk1-8: 30mg dianabol (GP)
*Aromasin 6.25mg everyday (researchstop)

-i life weights 3 times a week, however, on top of that, i started training in mixed martial arts a few weeks ago, which i do about 4 times a week.

my joints are killing me, mostly during martial arts, but now when i do chest and shoulder workouts too. im feeling it in my front shoulders. the worst the pain ever reached was during a boxing class, throwing various punch combos with 16oz gloves for an hour. i could barely turn my steering wheel in my car on the way home.

whats going on with me guys? am i over training? should i look for a bench press replacement? im sure that movement is very taxing in that shoulder joint area. im already taking chondroidin/glucosomin/msm (spelling?), but it hasent helped. i would LOVE to shoot deca, i have 3 giant bottles of it, but unfortunately i cant run the risk of failing a drug test 2 years from now lol.

**heavyiron** · 12-10-2011, 02:21 PM

Could be either. Why don't you get Estradiol checked to be sure?

**exphys88** · 12-10-2011, 02:53 PM

yeah, why play the guessing game? bloodwork has helped me out on many occasions. =)

**Junkboxer** · 12-10-2011, 03:24 PM

im gona try 6.25mg EOD, if that doesnt help im off to the doctor.

**Junkboxer** · 12-10-2011, 03:24 PM

sex drive doesnt seem through the roof at all either. figured id be flying with proviron

**exphys88** · 12-10-2011, 03:27 PM

no need to see the doc to check estradiol levels. use privatemdlabs

**Junkboxer** · 12-10-2011, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

no need to see the doc to check estradiol levels. use privatemdlabs

is there a blood test involved? im confused. heading over to Google now.

**Junkboxer** · 12-10-2011, 04:00 PM

whoa, 50.00 just for estradiol. it costs me 20.00 to get a full workup with my doc. gotta love that health insurance.

**exphys88** · 12-10-2011, 04:03 PM

I guess if your doc knows about your aas, then yes, it's always better to go to the doc. I have insurance but don't want anyone knowin bout my use. I suspect that some day I'll need trt and don't want docs afraid to prescribe test to me because of my past.

**lcht2** · 12-11-2011, 11:18 AM

could have shut down your estrogen levels pretty good. same shit happens to me. stopped haveing issues once i added fish oil and yes i was also useing joint supps before the fish oil...the fishy juice works wonders. pains went away after about a week or so. i still get sore joints (elbows, knees) but usually more so after work.

**aminoman74** · 12-11-2011, 11:59 AM

Maybe take it easy for a week and see how that goes.maybe your training to hard

**vannesb** · 12-11-2011, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I guess if your doc knows about your aas, then yes, it's always better to go to the doc. I have insurance but don't want anyone knowin bout my use. I suspect that some day I'll need trt and don't want docs afraid to prescribe test to me because of my past.

Not uncommon to get that checked when checking T levels. I get blood work done a few times a year from my doc. Go see your doctor, thats why we have insurance!.

**bdeljoose** · 12-11-2011, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I guess if your doc knows about your aas, then yes, it's always better to go to the doc. I have insurance but don't want anyone knowin bout my use. I suspect that some day I'll need trt and don't want docs afraid to prescribe test to me because of my past.

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I haven't had a blood test in years. I don't want anything in my medical file. I currently have a lawsuit for a back injury and the lawyers have gone through my med.files with a fine tooth comb. Sorry didn't mean to change the thread topic.

**exphys88** · 12-11-2011, 07:56 PM

My doc has never wanted to check test levels, no reason to. So, I just do it myself.

**exphys88** · 12-11-2011, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by bdeljoose

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I haven't had a blood test in years. I don't want anything in my medical file. I currently have a lawsuit for a back injury and the lawyers have gone through my med.files with a fine tooth comb. Sorry didn't mean to change the thread topic.

Getting your own bloodwork won't put it in a permanent file. They don't ask for soc sec number or ID when you go in.

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