Thread: Another first cycle question

everything looks good. I'd start the aromasin from day 1 though. do not use hcg during pct, only up to pct.

Will do, Vibrant, run the HCG in the two weeks between cycle and pct too?

EDIT: I will also be running Cycle Support RX with the Super DMZ too, forgot to add that.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

everything looks good. I'd start the aromasin from day 1 though. do not use hcg during pct, only up to pct.

Good advice here. I would run the Aromasin at 12.5mg ED though.

700 is just a tad high for first cycle... You'll get great results with test at 500 mgs a week. Dbol never hurts from week 1-4

Well I really want to run 700 and get all I can out of it my first time. Would the exemestane be better to run ED? I don't want to over do it on that. Also, I'm running the Super Dmz in place of dbol because I've heard it is a good kicker and I wanted to try it. Saving the Dbol for the second go around. That or prop.

ed because its a short half life. it'll help keep bloat and tits away.

remember, less is moar.

Originally Posted by justhav2p

700 is just a tad high for first cycle... You'll get great results with test at 500 mgs a week. Dbol never hurts from week 1-4

700 is not that high if you account for the ester weight. But I also think he should start a little lower.

Op, why dont you start with 500mg for the first 6 weeks and if you think you need to go higher bump it up to 750mg for weeks 7-10.

Well, I guess I can drop it some. I just don't want to take too low of an amount. I've done two mdrol cycles and the second one didn't really effect me much even at a higher dose. I want to make sure I'm taking enough to see good gains.

Any reason to drop from 700? Just because its my first time or will 700 be too harsh or what?

Originally Posted by hill450

Well, I guess I can drop it some. I just don't want to take too low of an amount. I've done two mdrol cycles and the second one didn't really effect me much even at a higher dose. I want to make sure I'm taking enough to see good gains.

Any reason to drop from 700? Just because its my first time or will 700 be too harsh or what?

not that its going to be too harsh,.. it's just not needed. your going to get swole off 500 mgs a week.

Ok, as long as 500 will do the job then I will try that and if I feel necessary jump up a little for the remaining.

Thanks guys you've been a big help!

Originally Posted by hill450

Well I really want to run 700 and get all I can out of it my first time. Would the exemestane be better to run ED? I don't want to over do it on that. Also, I'm running the Super Dmz in place of dbol because I've heard it is a good kicker and I wanted to try it. Saving the Dbol for the second go around. That or prop.

You could always run the DMZ as a finisher at the end of the cycle. I will be running DMZ for the last two weeks with my test and the two weeks while the test clears. I was recomended this ( thanks Heavy) to help get past the "stall" you get towards the end of a test only cycle.

So, youre running dmz at the end instead of the beginning? Hmmmm

Originally Posted by hill450

So, youre running dmz at the end instead of the beginning? Hmmmm

Yup

Hmm but then you've got to wait a month for the shit to kick in?

Originally Posted by hill450

Hmm but then you've got to wait a month for the shit to kick in?

no you dont. But I dont think you should use a finisher for your first cycle.

Well I've just planned on using the Super Dmz as a kicker and I'll probably stick to that. But I thought Test E takes about 3-4 weeks for the effects to kick in?

Originally Posted by hill450

Well I've just planned on using the Super Dmz as a kicker and I'll probably stick to that. But I thought Test E takes about 3-4 weeks for the effects to kick in?

yes, you are right about the test e. its a little different for everyone but 4 weeks is a good estimate.

The aromasin needs to be 12.5 mg ED.

The HCG needs to be taken something like this:

1-10 500iu 2x per week
11: 500iu 3x per weej
12: 1000iu 3x per week

There are a LOT of different HCG protcols and they all are close to the same. Basically you want to run as low as you can while on cycle. When you drop the test you need to blast the HCG until you start PCT. I always make sure that I have around 2 days from my last shot of HCG to the first day of clomid.

That was really close to my first cycle, almost identical age and weight. I ended up bumping it up to 750mg/wk and found that I liked that dose better. So I think 6-700mg/wk is okay for a first timer but that's me.

Thanks sloppy, that seems like a lot I'll use this protocol for the HCG and I can't decide for sure on my Test dose just yet. I of course want to up it but I want to be safe too. Thanks for the help man.