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    two short cycles or one long one?

    currently sitting at ~215 at 6'1, bodyfat % i dont know but abs are visible when flexing.
    obviously want to get bigger but also leaner... so looking for recomp basically

    i was thinking about doing a 6 week cycle now, sust + dbol kick at start (bulk time)... do this with 6 weeks on, 2 weeks off then 4 weeks pct. Then go on again for 8-10 weeks between may/june/july


    rather than shutting myself down twice, should i just wait till say april and do a longer cycle of 12-16 weeks? here i was thinking test/tren/mast

    ive done two cycles in the past. last was test cyp/ tren e

    any more information needed let me know and any and all advice is appreciated

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    Didn't read your post but 2short is much better then 1 long 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usealittle View Post
    Didn't read your post but 2short is much better then 1 long 1
    lol thats what i was leaning towards

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    I'm a fan of short blast. Look up OSL's thread about run and gun. I do get tired of pinning eod and will do a 12wk blast from time to time.

    Good luck

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    6weeks is way too short for sust. you have to either use prop ed or eod, or TNE ed. if you really want to do a 6 week cycle go with tne 50-75mg ed, 6 weeks dbol 30-50mg. pct would pretty much be the next day after last inject. thats how i would do it if i had to run a 6week cycle.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    6weeks is way too short for sust. you have to either use prop ed or eod, or TNE ed. if you really want to do a 6 week cycle go with tne 50-75mg ed, 6 weeks dbol 30-50mg. pct would pretty much be the next day after last inject. thats how i would do it if i had to run a 6week cycle.
    im currently suffering some complications from a wisdom tooth removal... i have a hairline fracture in my jaw from clenching my teeth at the gym. if i cant heal in time to start a cycle by the end of january looks like ill have to wait till spring anyway =[

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    As for clenching your teeth it happens to many people and some grind them at night.
    They make mouth guards just for this and a buddy of mine at the gym uses one that he had made and says it helps him quite a bit.
    I'm not a big fan of short cycles but some are. As was mentioned IF you decide to do one you would have to do short esters so sustanon certainly wouldnt be the choice for that.
    As you know with longer esters it would take a good three weeks for things to really get rockin. Ofcourse front loading with some orals(i.e D-bol) always makes things nice OR doing the long esters AND some prop or NPP.
    But personally I like a good 12 week cycle with a front load of orals and short esters along with the longer esters and get some solid gains and mass then a nice long PCT/ then off time.
    With this fashion you could actually be on half the year with nice breaks in between IF a person wanted to do so.
    Hope this and the other posters comments helps you some with your decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibrant View Post
    6weeks is way too short for sust. you have to either use prop ed or eod, or TNE ed. if you really want to do a 6 week cycle go with tne 50-75mg ed, 6 weeks dbol 30-50mg. pct would pretty much be the next day after last inject. thats how i would do it if i had to run a 6week cycle.

    i could always push the sust to 8 weeks, just have slightly less time to recover between cycles.

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    2 short cycles with short esters would be better than 1 long cycle IMO. 2 10wk cycles will be easier to recover from than 1 20wk cycle.

    Although I had some good luck with a 20wk cycle.
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    considering this:

    6 week cycle (yes i know i should be using fast acting esters)

    week 1 - front load 800 mg test e
    weeks 2-6 - 600 mg test e (pin 2x a week)
    weeks 4-8 - ??mg dbol/day
    weeks 1-8 0.25 mg adex EOD
    weeks 10-14 40/40/20/20 nolva
    weeks 10-13 150/100/50 clomid


    question:

    1. is front loading 800 mg too little? should it be upped to a gram? (never front loaded before)
    2. sources dbol comes in 25 mg tabs. dbol should be taken every 8 hours correct? was planning on 50mg/day but splitting the tabs like that would be a pain, should i just go up to 75?

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    Thats a waste of time with test e. You won't even notice anything. Frontloading is debatable also. If you want to run short cycles, stick to short esters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gm09 View Post
    considering this:

    6 week cycle (yes i know i should be using fast acting esters)

    week 1 - front load 800 mg test e
    weeks 2-6 - 600 mg test e (pin 2x a week)
    weeks 4-8 - ??mg dbol/day
    weeks 1-8 0.25 mg adex EOD
    weeks 10-14 40/40/20/20 nolva
    weeks 10-13 150/100/50 clomid


    question:

    1. is front loading 800 mg too little? should it be upped to a gram? (never front loaded before)
    2. sources dbol comes in 25 mg tabs. dbol should be taken every 8 hours correct? was planning on 50mg/day but splitting the tabs like that would be a pain, should i just go up to 75?

    Yeah i agree you aren't going to feel or see a thing in six weeks on test e. Just man up and use prop, I tried it for the first time last cycle and i don't know if i will ever do long esters again..screw that waiting bs

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    fuck it. gonna just suck it up and do prop. for 6 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm09 View Post
    currently sitting at ~215 at 6'1, bodyfat % i dont know but abs are visible when flexing.
    obviously want to get bigger but also leaner... so looking for recomp basically

    i was thinking about doing a 6 week cycle now, sust + dbol kick at start (bulk time)... do this with 6 weeks on, 2 weeks off then 4 weeks pct. Then go on again for 8-10 weeks between may/june/july


    rather than shutting myself down twice, should i just wait till say april and do a longer cycle of 12-16 weeks? here i was thinking test/tren/mast

    ive done two cycles in the past. last was test cyp/ tren e

    any more information needed let me know and any and all advice is appreciated
    6 week cycle is a waste IMHO. Do the longer one.

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    Switch to prop run it high for 6wks pct or cruise then blast back up for 6more wks....

    Shic's work very well.
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