20 week recomp cycle?

**trapzilla** · 12-18-2011, 07:49 AM

I'm just spitballing here really. After my New year bulk i'm thinking of a nice slow and steady recomp (20 weeks) as I B+C anyway. Here is the plan of action, please feel free to kick up a storm over it if things are peter tongleton:

1-4 NPP 100mg eod
1-4 test prop 150mg eod
1-16 test enth 300mg ew
5-10 dbol 50 mg ed
5-16 tren enth 600mg ew
15-20 winstol 100mg ed
17-20 npp 150mg eod
17-20 test prop 200mg eod
(1-20 Ghrp-2, 100mcg – SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed
1-20Mod-Grf(1-29) 100mcg SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed) -stolen from OSL
1-20 clen 2 weeks on 2 off or (run continuosuly with benadryl for 2 weeks every 2 weeks pre bed)
1-20 Asin 12.5 mg eod
1-20 caber.5mg e3d

The NPP is there for my joints, but is it necessary with the peptides too? if not i'd like to run the tren throughout so the cycle would look like this:

1-6 dbol 50mg ed
1-20 test enth 300mg ew
1-20 tren enth 600mg ew
15-20 100mg ed
(1-20 Ghrp-2, 100mcg – SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed
1-20Mod-Grf(1-29) 100mcg SubQ Morning Upon Wake, Post Workout, Pre Bed) -stolen from OSL
1-20 clen 2 weeks on 2 off or (run continuosuly with benadryl for 2 weeks every 2 weeks pre bed)
1-20 Asin 12.5 mg eod
1-20 caber.5mg e3d

Any feedback much appreciated.

**Vibrant** · 12-18-2011, 07:56 AM

are you sure you can handle tren for that long?

also post stats please.

Im gonna run the same peptide cycle in a day or two, so you can check out my log. I also have some joint and tendon problems.

**trapzilla** · 12-18-2011, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Vibrant

are you sure you can handle tren for that long?

also post stats please.

Im gonna run the same peptide cycle in a day or two, so you can check out my log. I also have some joint and tendon problems.

Age:21
Height: 5'10
Weight: 230lbs
Bf %: 13%
years training: 6
Previous cycles:5 (would be 6 or 7 by the time this came around)

Well its up in the air in that respect.I have only done ace for 6 weeks at the end of a tst/eq cycle.This upcoming new year cycle will include tren enth for 10, so as I said its spitballing. But if I can I will run it that long.

Okay thanks Vibrant I will do

**D-Lats** · 12-18-2011, 08:38 AM

20weeks at 600mg tren!! I dont think thats a good idea, especially running nandralone with it.

**trapzilla** · 12-18-2011, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

20weeks at 600mg tren!! I dont think thats a good idea, especially running nandralone with it.

In the 20 week option I wouldn't run the NPP.
But in hindsight 600mg is far too high. Not sure where my head was with that. I'd go with around 300/400mg.

**D-Lats** · 12-18-2011, 09:03 AM

If you were going to do a long run of tren id suggest maybe running tren e for the first 8-10 then switch to tren a. This would allow you to pull the plug easier if shit gets crazy. The physical sides of tren can be very harsh and you dont want to be forced to deal with them for weeks while waiting for the long ester to clear. The tren a would be gone in a day or to. Just my opinion but dont underestimate the intensity of tren.

**Vibrant** · 12-18-2011, 09:08 AM

also, if you have joint/tendon issues, winstrol might not be a wise choice.

**trapzilla** · 12-18-2011, 09:19 AM

I really like that idea D, takes a bit of uncertainty out of the equation. Winstrol doesn't hurt my joints actually vibrant. Equipoise does however, they ache and ache on it.

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-18-2011, 10:04 AM

If you react well to tren Id say this go around run tren higher than your total Test, you will enjoy the results better.

As for the GHRP and GHRH, your a bigger guy, so increase the dose. 100mcg Mod-Grf along side 200mcg GHRP-2 will do much better than 100mcg of each. And they dont help so much with joints, but more tendons and fibers. So running a minimal doe of NPP a week is a good option for you.

**rc771** · 12-18-2011, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by trapzilla

Well its up in the air in that respect.I have only done ace for 6 weeks at the end of a tst/eq cycle.This upcoming new year cycle will include tren enth for 10, so as I said its spitballing. But if I can I will run it that long.

Okay thanks Vibrant I will do

man I ran tren ace for like 11 weeks a few cycles back and let me tell you, after about the 7 - 8 week mark the aggression got really intense and for the first time i felt the anxiety and it messing with my head, it seemed like all the sides started to get worse, sex drive dropped significantly also. It was @ 75mg mg ed with 1100mg prop...

**trapzilla** · 12-18-2011, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter

If you react well to tren Id say this go around run tren higher than your total Test, you will enjoy the results better.

As for the GHRP and GHRH, your a bigger guy, so increase the dose. 100mcg Mod-Grf along side 200mcg GHRP-2 will do much better than 100mcg of each. And they dont help so much with joints, but more tendons and fibers. So running a minimal doe of NPP a week is a good option for you.

Excellent. Thanks OSL. Would you suggest keep the NPP in for the whole cycle or just for a short period?

**trapzilla** · 12-18-2011, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by rc771

man I ran tren ace for like 11 weeks a few cycles back and let me tell you, after about the 7 - 8 week mark the aggression got really intense and for the first time i felt the anxiety and it messing with my head, it seemed like all the sides started to get worse, sex drive dropped significantly also. It was @ 75mg mg ed with 1100mg prop...

Oh right RC, how were the sides prior to that? And have you run tren as long since then?

**OldSchoolLifter** · 12-18-2011, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by trapzilla

Excellent. Thanks OSL. Would you suggest keep the NPP in for the whole cycle or just for a short period?

Id keep it in for the whole run brother, Just grab you some caber and dose it @ .5mg Twice Weekly.

**trapzilla** · 12-18-2011, 10:35 AM

Okie dokie, much appreciated man.

**rc771** · 12-18-2011, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by trapzilla

Oh right RC, how were the sides prior to that? And have you run tren as long since then?

Honestly before that had nearly zero sides, but it seemed like around the 8 week mark it started to affect me.

I stick to 8 week max now, just my personal experience...

**JCBourne** · 12-18-2011, 09:46 PM

If your running NPP for joint issues only why not do a low dose of deca? Less pinning and at a low dose I highly doubt you will have water retention.

**trapzilla** · 12-19-2011, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by JCBourne

If your running NPP for joint issues only why not do a low dose of deca? Less pinning and at a low dose I highly doubt you will have water retention.

Certainly an idea,when I switch to the tren ace, as per D's suggestion I could switch to the NPP aswell. Good call, thanks JC

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