Thread: Trt?

It is unlikely that PCT will get you test levels back to normal if they were not there to begin with. I was put on HRT 2 years ago and Brother I can tell you it has been a real life changer. Yes they tried the gel at first with me but it wasn't practical so I requested inj test cyp and I do the injections myself as most of us do. The test is covered by sript. ins. so the cost is very reasonable. I wouldn't cycle anymore till I got this taken care of. An endocrinologist or urologist or even some general practitioners do this sort of thing. I would do PCT and then wait 2 months and get tested again. You want to make sure you wait long enough to present as you really are. Good luck Bro.

I was on the same boat for a few years...

I kept telling my primary doc how I felt..had no sex drive at all and felt sluggish for a few year...everytime the doc did blood work my T levels were within range but on the really low end...like T levels of a 80yr old...

I took matter into my own hands and crashed my natural T levels and went to an endo and the endo scripted test e 200mg every other wk for now..

At first the endo wanted to androgel but I wasn't able to do so since I have an infant and don't want shit rubbing off on him so the endo gave me injections since my T levels were very, very low

I was like this for years and I finally did something about it on my own, not sayin to do what I did but some docs just brush you off even after tellin them you fell like shit for a few years. But with your 270 T level range I do not think they will get you on TRT, you will have to be below the lowest range number for them to consider startin TRT.

Originally Posted by bulldogz

I was on the same boat for a few years...

I kept telling my primary doc how I felt..had no sex drive at all and felt sluggish for a few year...everytime the doc did blood work my T levels were within range but on the really low end...like T levels of a 80yr old...

I took matter into my own hands and crashed my natural T levels and went to an endo and the endo scripted test e 200mg every other wk for now..

At first the endo wanted to androgel but I wasn't able to do so since I have an infant and don't want shit rubbing off on him so the endo gave me injections since my T levels were very, very low

I was like this for years and I finally did something about it on my own, not sayin to do what I did but some docs just brush you off even after tellin them you fell like shit for a few years. But with your 270 T level range I do not think they will get you on TRT, you will have to be below the lowest range number for them to consider startin TRT.

The range was 300-1200 so I am below the range. I just don't want the gel. It sounds like a pain in the ass.

Have to apply it daily, and be careful who I touch afterwords. You know how many times I wake up, take a shower and then the old lady decides since I'm all nice and clean we should get dirty? The gel ruins that.

^^maybe tellin your doc you have a baby or some shit...

I know for me...when I crashed my T levels and got bloodwork for my endo my T levels were only in the double digits and my doc initially wanted to do the gel or the patches, but I told her I have an infant (which is true) but then the doc looked at my T levels again and right away suggested injections...

Originally Posted by hoyle21

Kind of just looking for advice. 33 years old 6-4 280 lbs. Lived in the gym from 14-24 got back into it a few years ago. I was really struggling to make gains or lose fat so I thought I would run a cycle. So I purchased everything and then decided to get blood work done last minute just because. My total T level came back at around 270, which explains my issues. I ran the cycle and didn't drop as much fat as I wanted but did get strong as shit.

Now I need to decide if I should even bother to PCT or just cruise, or maybe come off long enough to get retested for TRT. I do have insurance, but from what I read sounds like they will prescribe androgel and I really don't like that idea.

Is it possible that a cycle and then PCT could jump start my system even if was previously screwed or is getting to pre-cycle T levels the best I can hope for?

High body fat will contribute to a low testosterone. Aromatase is abundant in adipose tissue. So, if you are carrying a lot of it yout testosterone will be low due to its conversion to estrogen. Could be that if you drop down to a legitimate 15% or lower you may be in normal rage.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

High body fat will contribute to a low testosterone. Aromatase is abundant in adipose tissue. So, if you are carrying a lot of it yout testosterone will be low due to its conversion to estrogen. Could be that if you drop down to a legitimate 15% or lower you may be in normal rage.

This is a very good point. Also total test only tells part of the story, you need complete lab work.

I say fuck it, stock up on test/adex and never look back

no dont fuck it if your only 33. Get a diet plan and workout plan and try to get down to 15% then re-test your level's.

if some gel get's on your women it will make her hornier if anything at all, not enough to give her a deep voice or anything

Im on trt and didnt have to get bloodwork done. I havent been off test inj for 15yrs. My doc just rights the scripts. Get generic, call around and price per bottle will be much less. I used to just pay for the upjohn which is over a 100.00 per 10ml bottle. not good. Upjohn good for sure but generic is just as good, much cheeper.