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    Second cycle

    My first cycle was :

    Sustanon @600mg 1-8
    Dbol @20mg ED 1-3
    Novadex @ 10mg ED 1-8

    PCT 3 weeks after last shot:

    Day 1-2
    Clomid 250mg , Nolvadex 40mg
    Day 3-5
    Clomid 200mg , Nolvadex 40mg
    Day 6-23
    Clomid 100mg , Nolvadex 20mg

    I've gained 14kg.

    I'm thinking to do another cycle in about 4 months. Here it is:

    1-2 Test cyp 1000mg/week
    1-2 EQ 800mg/week
    2-12 Test cyp 750mg/week
    2-12 EQ 600mg/week
    1-6 Dbol 50mg/ED
    1-13 Anastrozol 0.5mg/EOD
    6-13 HCG 250IU 2x/week
    14-18 PCT Clomid & Nolvadex

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    ....stats??
    Eq-best 16 wks or longer
    Why so much on second cycle?, and the large "front load " for 2 wks?

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    what were your gains on your first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justhav2p View Post
    what were your gains on your first cycle?
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    I've gained 14kg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renn View Post
    1-2 Test cyp 1000mg/week
    1-2 EQ 800mg/week
    2-12 Test cyp 750mg/week
    2-12 EQ 600mg/week
    1-6 Dbol 50mg/ED
    1-13 Anastrozol 0.5mg/EOD
    6-13 HCG 250IU 2x/week
    14-18 PCT Clomid & Nolvadex
    For PCT you meant 15-18?

    HCG - start from week 1.

    You won't be impressed with EQ, so I would drop it and leave only Test and Dbol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    For PCT you meant 15-18?
    Yes I meant 15-18

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    HCG - start from week 1.
    Ok. Is 250IU 2x/week enough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Night_Wolf View Post
    You won't be impressed with EQ, so I would drop it and leave only Test and Dbol.
    What about deca instead EQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dath View Post
    ....stats??
    Eq-best 16 wks or longer
    Why so much on second cycle?, and the large "front load " for 2 wks?
    175cm 88kg 10% BF

    Why so much? I want to explode! lol I want to gain 15-20kg of lean muscle.

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    since its your second cycle, deca would be a better choice, i love the high dosages you employed though. but in future EQ will work for you if taken at 1 gram wk for 20 weeks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Renn View Post
    Ok. Is 250IU 2x/week enough?

    What about deca instead EQ?
    1. Yes.

    2. Sure. If u plan to run Deca than get some caber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justhav2p View Post
    what were your gains on your first cycle?

    the reason I ask,.. if it ain't broke don't fix it..

    If you gained substantially, why add or change the recipe?

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    If I do the same cycle as before just extend it for 4 week would I be able to gain the same amount of muscle as I did on first cycle. (First Cycle I planed to run Sust 10 weeks but my vials were short.)

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    I'd do the same cycle but up your dosages slightly, maybe 750test 40mg dbol for the first 4-6 weeks. The cycle you laid out in the first post looks like too much IMO

    Also I'd switch out sust for test Enanthate or cypionate, unless you plan to pin every other day
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    There's what I have on hand:

    2x 10ml vial 400mg/ml Test enanthate & cypionate
    150tabs 10mg Dbol
    25tabs 25mg Aromasin
    100tabs 50mg Clomid
    60tabs 20mg Nolvadex

    My cycle:

    Test 1-10 @800mg/week Mon Thur
    Dbol 1-5 @40mg ED
    1-10 Aromasin @12,5mg EOD

    12-16 PCT Clomid 200/100/50/50 Nolva 20/20/20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renn View Post
    There's what I have on hand:

    2x 10ml vial 400mg/ml Test enanthate & cypionate
    150tabs 10mg Dbol
    25tabs 25mg Aromasin
    100tabs 50mg Clomid
    60tabs 20mg Nolvadex

    My cycle:

    Test 1-10 @800mg/week Mon Thur
    Dbol 1-5 @40mg ED
    1-10 Aromasin @12,5mg EOD


    12-16 PCT Clomid 200/100/50/50 Nolva 20/20/20/20
    Looks like great second cycle bro,
    Only major change I'd make is save the aromasin for pct, it's to strong for your on cycle layout, and it's also best taking ED due to its half life.
    Get some arimidex for on cycle and a good starting point is .5 mgs eod.
    Pct - IMO the clomid is a lil high but it works.
    My pct for this would be
    Clomid 100/100/75/50
    Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

    Also have you considered adding HCG,
    Added- pick either test E or Cyp and get some more of it of course.
    Last edited by Dath; 01-28-2012 at 04:06 AM. Reason: Added

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    Test cyp&E are in the same vial. 200mg cyp & 200mg E /ml.
    I can get some armidex. So I'll add it instead of aromasin, and save aromasin for PCT
    And I'll add HCG.
    My previous PCT was high on clomid and I recovered well. I'll try lower dose. Maybe first 5 days 250-200.

    So here's the cycle

    Test 1-10 @800mg/week Mon Thur
    Dbol 1-5 @40mg ED
    1-11 Armidex 0.5mg/EOD
    1-11 HCG 250IU 2x/week
    12-16 Clomid 100/100/75/50 Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

    Tnx for reply.

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    My bad on the E/Cyp mix bud ..misunderstood it.
    If you know you recovered well with the lil higher clomid then stick with bro!
    Mine was only a suggestion.
    Enjoy it bro! Looks good

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