Thread: wat gear does not work on you?

Originally Posted by dav1dg90

^^^THAT LOL!!!! I can't belive it bro that suckS!!! I love some Tren boy!!!

That really seems bazaar to me --- Tren is hands down the most anabolic and androgenic compound as your disposal.

It will be the 1 compound that will be able to build you bigger , stronger and leaner all at the same time.

If not --- blame Ma' & Pa' for the genes....

(Remember , it's all how your body accepts the compounds--genetic response to endure drugs)

-Matt

Originally Posted by unclem

humatrope @ 5 ius ed mon- fri.

Did you at least get side effects? CTS, bloat, lethargy , hands swelling?


--Matt

Tbol as kicker, gives gains but no drive/boost or any real extra feeling.
And var just takes too high dosage for too long to do anything, perhaps at a lower body fat. Same with masteron btw, too high bf and you can do without since there's no difference.

Originally Posted by MattPorter

That really seems bazaar to me --- Tren is hands down the most anabolic and androgenic compound as your disposal.

It will be the 1 compound that will be able to build you bigger , stronger and leaner all at the same time.

If not --- blame Ma' & Pa' for the genes....

(Remember , it's all how your body accepts the compounds--genetic response to endure drugs)

-Matt

Very true LOL!!! If you can't grow on Tren you literally won't grow on anything. It is deff one of the most used AAS for the pros disposal and it is one of a kind.

Tbol didnt do much for me, good pumps and vascularity but almost nothing for real gains.

Deca worked wonders for my joints, but my dick hates deca and he makes the calls - even at as little as 250mg/wk with 500-750mg of test, shit was not workin out .. still debating trying NPP next time around, maybe real low dose with high test

Originally Posted by dav1dg90

Never heard of those, whats it all about??? Let a negros know what goodie in the hood LMAO!!!

iam no chemist but i guess it does the same thing in the pituatary gland and bounce cells off the adrenal gland. but i get the side effects that mimic hgh from levadopa- carbidopa/ sinemet and i get growth gut and it works like growth should of done on me. you can google it and it will tell you excact mechanism of action levadopa works. all i know is it works and good to. plus i found out that clonidine/ catapress works on your pituatary gland to and has release of hgh to so i take both. i was reading if u take 1mcg -3mcg at hs and 1- 3 mcg upon wakening clonidine hits and helps w/ hgh release. so i get my clonidine and its a bp pill to so i get doulble wammy.

Originally Posted by Grozny

A main problem isnt dosage its about quality of api's that use some labs. Its a very hard enougt to find in China a solid api supplier for compounds like a oxandrolone, fluoxymesterone,boldenone und, turinabol and trenbolone hexa. Now when you need to buy one of these finished prods from a certain lab you scrupulously need to have a trusted source .

Per example on this biogen labtest this UG probably worked with bad powders.
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If a manufactuer feel no affinity with the product that he produce, but only are in it for the money, you’ll never be able to stay in this market. It will lead to disinterest and questionable products.

Per example if you use an API like by example Boldenone Undecanoate that is only 73% real then, in order to meet the required 200 mg/ml, you’ll be forced to use 274 mg/ml to achieve the 200 mg/ml active ingredient (Boldenone Undecanoate). That does on the other hand mean you are high dosing on the powder and you cant be sure with what the raw powder has been cut. The overdosing of the unknown powder is 38% of the total powdermass.

May be some of you remember the first batch of Axio Turan that was 5mg tabs instead of 10mg. It was because the API was pure 40% only and we got 5mg tablet instead of a 10mg. See analyses Turan tabs tested 4.83mg and raw 403mg/g.
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grozny your a very smart guy w/ gear and its workings. nice post brother!

just curious what do you mean by "growth gut"? As in you actually notice your gut getting bigger from it or what?

Will have to look into levadopa though, sounds interesting

Originally Posted by MattPorter

Did you at least get side effects? CTS, bloat, lethargy , hands swelling?


--Matt

yes i got the bloated gut and my hands killed me , very sore, i know it was that as it went away after i stopped the humatrope. but now i get the effects from levadopa/ carbidopa/ sinemet i get sides as hgh w/ that but i also get the positive effects, so, its trial and error i guess.

m/

Originally Posted by Digitalash

just curious what do you mean by "growth gut"? As in you actually notice your gut getting bigger from it or what?

Will have to look into levadopa though, sounds interesting

yes i got a bloated gut, so i have to use arimidex, that takes my gut down real nicely. but yes humatrope gave me gut distention like i said to matt. u can look up levadopa in more then one place, anywhere and it will tell you its great for hgh release. clonidine/ catapress also, a bp pill. if taken wright. so i take them both for my hgh and couldnt be happier w/ results. i use arimidex as my first and only choice as it increases test levels slightly in open blind studies. but it was blind study so it could be bias. good enough for me though. levadopa is used for parkisons disease. gabapentin is showing promise for amino acid release. ill have to watch this.

i would say deca.

Originally Posted by unclem

grozny your a very smart guy w/ gear and its workings. nice post brother!

thanks bro...

merry christmas fellas

dbol,superdrol sides are to bad(they did work)

Originally Posted by unclem

yes i got a bloated gut, so i have to use arimidex, that takes my gut down real nicely. but yes humatrope gave me gut distention like i said to matt. u can look up levadopa in more then one place, anywhere and it will tell you its great for hgh release. clonidine/ catapress also, a bp pill. if taken wright. so i take them both for my hgh and couldnt be happier w/ results. i use arimidex as my first and only choice as it increases test levels slightly in open blind studies. but it was blind study so it could be bias. good enough for me though. levadopa is used for parkisons disease. gabapentin is showing promise for amino acid release. ill have to watch this.

Has catapres caused any weight gain from lowering your sympathetic nervous system? It seems to work by lowering norepinephrine and catecholamines which would increase metabolic rate and cortisol.

Usually when people use GH, they may get initial bloat, but after some weeks/months the bloat should be under control and the waist should get TIGHT and leaner. If you force tons of carbs and add insulin then it's a different story.

-Matt

Originally Posted by Digitalash

Very odd, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say dbol doesn't work for them. Have you tried another source?

Agree d/bol doesn't work for me. was from A/T

I've tried dbol at 20mg a day all the way up to 100mg a day, got great results but going over 40mg seems to be a waste unless you use it as a preworkout, which is what I was doing. M1T is the only steroid that kills my sex drive (without test) love it though Good hardening effect it gives me and the strength is through the roof anything over 20mg on it has been a waste for me, ran it at 40mg a day for a while there was no difference from 20mg other than it RAPED my appetite lol. Drol is ok but I like the previous 2 a bit better. Superdrol, not that big of a fan of it, seems to be a carb whore. Tren actualy increases my sex drive and its awesome. Deca is unbeatable for joint relief but I haven't got shit to say about var other than it does have some hardening effect, overall I don't think the shits worth it unless you have extra cash to blow and are pretty lean to begin with. Test though, test is king LOL.

Starting to think Dbol doesnt work on me. 40mg a day. Been on for two weeks and put on about 5lbs. Dont have any of the back pumps that guys talk about. Pretty big muscle pumps in the gym but nothing crazy. IDK, 2 more weeks and the kicker to my cycle is done anyway.....

5lbs in 2 weeks and you're saying it's not doing anything? What? Are you consuming enough cals?

eq for me i am surprised not more people i have all ways heard a lot of people do not respnod to eqipoise (sp).

Originally Posted by pieguy

5lbs in 2 weeks and you're saying it's not doing anything? What? Are you consuming enough cals?

Not saying its not doing anything, just not responding like other people do. My bro in-law gets back pumps to the point that he cant lift anymore for that session. He also gets noticeably bigger within the first week. Maybe I am expecting to much. I did notice my appetite has increased alot. I eat constantly now....

Gonna see how this cycle pans out and then maybe run the Dbol again in a future cycle at 50mged and see what happens.

Proviron.

Edit: It might work but it's about worthless IMO.

clen just came to mind.... lots of shaking but no fat loss. even at 180 mcg ed

without knowing what u guys do on a day to day basis,i cant really say its bunk gear or ur not deiting right.But the fact is if u dont work out or eat right and take gear u should still gain at least 6 pounds.working out and eating u should gain 10 lbs in 2 weeks on test and dbol

A lot of people probably got bunk or underdosed gear and are blaming the compound rather than the source. If somebody gets bunk EQ and it doesnt work because the gear is underdoses it is probably unlikely that that person would ever get EQ again. Some would sure, but a lot of people would never give the compound a run again and just conclude that the "EQ just doesnt work for them." Other compunds are different, like Proviron, in that it may not really give anybody a HUGE benefit. But I would think that the big boys ie-Test,Deca,Tren,Dbol etc. should pretty much work on everybody. I don't see how any of those compounds, if human grade, simply would not work on somebody.

Originally Posted by njc

A lot of people probably got bunk or underdosed gear and are blaming the compound rather than the source. If somebody gets bunk EQ and it doesnt work because the gear is underdoses it is probably unlikely that that person would ever get EQ again. Some would sure, but a lot of people would never give the compound a run again and just conclude that the "EQ just doesnt work for them." Other compunds are different, like Proviron, in that it may not really give anybody a HUGE benefit. But I would think that the big boys ie-Test,Deca,Tren,Dbol etc. should pretty much work on everybody. I don't see how any of those compounds, if human grade, simply would not work on somebody.

anything legal doesnt work for me or anyone else.......i read the boards.....placebo is a motherfucker aint it?

EQ and TBOL are worthless for me.

The only time gear didnt do much for me is when i didnt give time to clean my receptors.it didnt matter what i took back in the early 2000s ,if i didnt take a brake i hit a wall and stopped growing.thats why they call them cycles.but for people who want to know the big question if b-gen works i gained 10 pounds in almost 2 weeks from d bol and tt500.