Thread: clen or winny for a leaner look?

The sides from winny are really not worth it to me. I would dial in your diet and take the clen. Clen works wonders with a clean diet. Good Luck bro

Originally Posted by grotto72

Planning on running test prop at 500-600mg/wk for 8 weeks but dont want to end up looking soft. will plan to have 12%bf before the cycle and want to gain while still looking pretty lean. i've got arimadex and dbol but dont think i'll need the dbol while on prop. i know clen and winny are pretty different compounds but from what i know both are used to cut.

basically just want to know if winny or clen will give a harder look at the end of the 8wks.

Winny is harsh on liver and lipids, clen is harsh on the heart ----both not to be taken lightly.

They both will AID in your desired look --- but NOT if you do not throw in a strict diet and cardio.

A pure DHT androgen will help harden you up due to its anti aromatase properties and hard binding to the Androgen Receptors. Stanodrol and AndroHardv3 are oTC and great DHT analogs.

-Matt

i will clean up my diet and will be doing 3x30min cardio sessions a week. i was thinking if i use clen i would do it for the first 2 weeks and then the last 2 weeks of the 8 wk cycle. if i use winny, would be for the last 4 weeks. How harsh are the side effects compared to dbol? i've never used a dht aas previously.

Clen will melt the felt off if your diet is strict, screw winny.

Originally Posted by grotto72

i will clean up my diet and will be doing 3x30min cardio sessions a week. i was thinking if i use clen i would do it for the first 2 weeks and then the last 2 weeks of the 8 wk cycle. if i use winny, would be for the last 4 weeks. How harsh are the side effects compared to dbol? i've never used a dht aas previously.

Less harsh than Dbol.

You deal with liver toxicity with both hormones, but winny has no estrogen related side effects and also is less androgenic.

So you are dealing with a high anabolic, low androgenic, non-aromatizing steroid.

It will be more forgiving than dianabol.

-Matt