what are your stats bro? are you a drug tested athlete?
1) Age
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat
3) Years of Consistant Training experience
4) Previous Cycle experience
5) Training routine and Diet
6) Cycle Goals
Hey guys one of my buddies who use to play for the Bucs suggested this cycle to me. What do you think?
Week 1-12 500 mg Test cyp, 400 mg deca.
Weeks 1-4 igf1-lr3 every day 50mcgs. Dianabol 40mgs each day.
Weeks 5-12 tren acetate 50 mg a day.
Weeks 14-18 pct.....


what are your stats bro? are you a drug tested athlete?
1) Age
2) Weight and Percent BodyFat
3) Years of Consistant Training experience
4) Previous Cycle experience
5) Training routine and Diet
6) Cycle Goals
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24 years old
200 pounds 10% body fat
6 foot 1
10 years of year round weight and agility training
Previous cycles have consisted mostly of test cyp or prop and dbol. my first cycle ever was tren 50 mg every other day when I was 17.
Training routine is normal body building routine basically a different muscle group every day. 3 Of the 6 days a week of weights are devoted to weights in the morning, swimming and sprints in the evening.
My goal is to be a solid 220 and keep that weight.
I have been natural for 3 years
No drug tests until next year


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What do you think about taking the iron mag labs deca max pills then? I understand nothing beats injectable true deca but it may not be a bad alternative.....tren doesn't bother my cardio for some reason.
You can't really run deca/npp or even EQ, maybe just add some extra test to compromise? Possibly start at 750mg and ramp up to 1g around the 6-7 week mark if everything's going well. You will probably need alot of AI (especially with the dbol) and hopefully you're running caber/prami with the tren, but 20lbs fairly lean should be pretty doable depending on your diet
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This is right on the mark. For an athlete you cannot really use much, if any, tren. I am an athlete and have been most of my life. I wont touch deca or tren. I have and will use NPP. It is faster acting so I can control it easier BUT I am not a drug tested athlete or it would be out of the question as well.
My sport requires heavy endurance for a long period of time. Only you can know if your sport and it's needs are compromised by tren but still be careful about testing.
As for the test cyp. Test is always (99.999% of the time?) useful in cycles. However, I use test prop as once again it is a shorter ester so I can control it better.
As Digitalash said, AI's will be especially important to you. As an athlete you need to be able to keep control over whats going on in your body and I have found that my Aromasin, A-dex, caber and HCG are easily as important in my training as the hormones.
I am considering d-bol but have yet to decide. Since it is a lot of water weight gain I am not sure it will fit into my needs. If you use it I hope you will post how it works for you and your thoughts. I would be very interested and grateful!
Best of luck to you!


I think you should try dbol, im in a sport where endurance is a big factor. I ran it with a heavy dose ai and continued doing a ton of cardio, I barely gained any water weight. I gained like maybe 6lbs and dropped 1-2lbs when i came off to just test but the strength gain and that good feeling you get was worth it.
op, how about a simple but effective cycle like this?
1-5 dbol at 40mg
1-5 test e or c 500mg
6-9 test e or c 750mg
10-12 test e or c around 900mg-1g
11-14 sdmz or tbol at 50-80mg if you choose tbol start at week 10
ai shoud be high while on dbol.
aromasin
1-5 25mg ed
6-14 25mg eod or maybe even ed
or
arimidex
1-5 .5mg ed
6-14 .5mg eod or ed
pct:
15-18 clomid 100/100/75/50
aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
dont rush to hit your weight goal in just one cycle, your body has to be in optimal weight for your sport. if you gain too much weight too quickly, it may give you problems in your sport.
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I'd agree with Vibrant said. If you're looking for a little bit more, maybe EQ or Primo would be viable options although primo is always faked and expensive. EQ is just a lot of oil to pin but good stuff all around, and very mild. 17 years old and tren, jees that's bad... I mean 20 year old, go for it, but 17, shit![]()
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My sport is football. Yes I will be playing in Europe next season and won't be tested till I'm back on this continent haha. Almost everything is legal in Germany. Thanks for all the help everyone!


Dbol,test,eq and var have worked wonders for my rugby. Its got me provincial level.

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Maybe I will try dbol Vibrant. Thank you for the insight. I could start slow on it and work up to a point where I feel the gains are worth any sides. Maybe incorporate it right into a cycle I am going to start right away like:
Week 1
dbol 20mg ed
Test P 100 eod
Masteron 100 eod
Aromasin 25 ed
Weel 2-5
dbol 40mg eg
Test P 100 eod
Masteron 100 eod
Armoasin 25 eod
Week 6-8
Test P 150 eod
Aromasin 25 eod (maybe 12.5 eod? See how it works
Week 8-12
Test P 150 eod
Winny Oral 50mg ed
Aromasin 25 or 12.5 eod
PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
HCG if not used on cycle will use it in PCT. I will see how I feel week 2 of cycle to see if I will run it during or in PCT.


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I have taken winny and it doesn't seem to bother my joints as much as some peoples.
As for the prop, I seem to respond in a strange way to test. My levels shoot for the sky with very little help. On 400mg of prop per week my test came back at 2300+ in my blood work for 3 weeks after last shot then dropped back to my normal of 300 almost overnight.
Maybe I will be lucky as well with the dbol and it will work like a charm also.
The mast is prop. I may go higher on the mast after I have more experience with it. It is my understanding that it is a relatively safe medicine.
Ahh for money. If I had enough I would cycle forever with Primo, Var, HGH, Test, and BBQ Chips![]()
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