Cycle critique

**Calves of Steel** · 12-28-2011, 12:00 AM

4th cycle critique

Stats:
24 years old
4th cycle
6'0
234 lbs
18% bf

weeks 1-17 Test E 750mg ew
weeks 1-15 Deca 200mg ew
weeks 1-4,9-12 Dbol 25mg ed, Anadrol 25mg ed
weeks 17-20 Anavar 50mg ed, Dbol 25mg ed
weeks 1-20 Aromasin 20mg ed
weeks 2-20 200iu HCG ed
weeks 9-12 Humalog 5iu PWO only, +1/week until I reach 8iu
HGH 4iu/d, +1 ew till I get to 10.(or if sides stop me)

PCT
Days 1-35 Aromasin 10mg/day
Days 1-5 Clomid 150mg/day
Days 6-15 Clomid 100mg/day
Days 15-30 Clomid 50mg/day
Days 30-40 Clomid 25mg/day
Weeks 1-4 Humalog 5iu PWO only, +1/week until I reach 8iu

Goals: Recomp/recovery: Gain 15 pounds, decrease bodyfat to 14%, strengthen joints.

Notes:
4 weeks bulking, 4 weeks cutting, 4 weeks bulking, 4 weeks cutting, 4 weeks maintaining.
This will be my first time with deca, anadrol, and insulin.
When I do orals, I like to lower the dose and do a mix. My body tolerates orals very well, as my liver enzymes were barely elevated after 6 weeks of winny or 6 weeks of dbol (50mg each). I will get liver enzymes tested before each round of orals.
My aromasin is UGL and from a trusted source, it is 10mg/tab.
Low dose deca and low dose anadrol are just for joint support. I am prone to gyno, so I'm keeping their doses low and keeping HCG doses low and frequent.
I am willing to go up to 10iu/day of HGH if gyno/CTS/hand numbness isn't overwhelming, but it is very possible that i will end up between 4 and 10iu somewhere.
Orals at the end of the cycle are for preserving mass while esters clear.
I am a grad student and have taken 2 courses and attended numerous seminars about insulin and diabetes, and have done months of research about it for bodybuilding purposes. I feel I can confidently and safely use it.
Humalog in PCT is to preserve muscle mass and improve HPTA recovery (as insulin is known to raise testosterone)

Diet: Carbs/Protein/Fat 40/30/30 4500 calories/day, 6 meals and 2 shakes
Supplements: fish oil, flax oil, vitamin C, vitamin D, resveratrol, IML Advanced cycle support, Creatine, Twinlabs Ultrafuel, BSN AminoX, Beta-alanine, 81mg aspirin.

Any advice?

**Calves of Steel** · 12-28-2011, 01:57 PM

Bump

**GeorgeForemanRules** · 12-28-2011, 02:09 PM

No need to run a 20 week cycle IMO.

**SloppyJ** · 12-28-2011, 02:20 PM

Seems a little long for those compounds. That makes it hard to recover from. Var needs to be longer than 4 weeks IMO. Too many orals at low doses scattered throughout.

**GMO** · 12-28-2011, 02:24 PM

There are so many things wrong with that cycle, that I don't even know where to begin.

**littlekev** · 12-28-2011, 02:40 PM

18% bodyfat drop the decca,dbol, cut cycle to 14 weeks at most, drop aromiasin to 12.5 ed you can raise it if needed. Are you kidding on some of this? 200iu hcg ed? hcg is to be run at 500 iu throughout cycle duration. Why slin???? keep hgh at 4iu, i wouldn't go over 6 for a recomp but thats imo. Run anavar week 1-10 and add some eq for joints and help recomp effect, so

1-14 test e 700mg wk
1-10 anavar 50mg ed
1-14 eq atleast 400mg wk
hgh 4iu ed 5 on 2 off
arom 12.5 mg ed
hcg 500 iu split 250 mon, 250 thur
NO SLIN ITS NOT FOR NEWB

Run this low carb and high protein. You can't bulk, recomp, bulk, recomp that fast, it takes time and a dedicated diet, your proposed cycle is a mess! Leave the slin alone bro its no joke. Maybe add some clen in their, if you do the proper amount of cardio and use this cycle, AND EAT RIGHT, you will recomp and look awesome.

**XYZ** · 12-28-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by GMO

There are so many things wrong with that cycle, that I don't even know where to begin.

^^This.

Seems like complete and total overkill.

Why not run test and only test the entire time and make adjustmants to your caloric intake to make the proper adjustments?

**littlekev** · 12-28-2011, 02:47 PM

I noticed your arom is 10mg a tab, if their tabs and not caps i would use 1 and a half per day to start and raise if needed, also would have letro on hand.

**littlekev** · 12-28-2011, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by XYZ

^^This.

Seems like complete and total overkill.

Why not run test and only test the entire time and make adjustmants to your caloric intake to make the proper adjustments?

even better advice, substituting drugs for diet will not work and is bull

**Calves of Steel** · 12-28-2011, 09:50 PM

You guys are right this does seem like overkill for my goals. Maybe I got a bit too excited. I was under the impression that deca had to be run for 12-16 weeks to take advantage of its benefits, and I have read that daily administration of hcg at a lower dose is better for sensitivity to LH as well as less of a risk for aggravating gyno. 4 on 4 off orals were for kickstart, mid-cycle plateau busting, and to cover me while esters cleared. Aright back to the drawing board haha.

**theCaptn'** · 12-28-2011, 10:46 PM

Recomp? Test n tren you can't beat it.

This would be my personal choice:

Wk1-10 test e 400mg
Wk 1-2 tren a 50mg Ed
Wk 2-10 tren a 75mg Ed

Support meds and pct as required

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