Using least amount that works.

**AZ123** · 12-30-2011, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

My dad use to swear by test cyp 200 mg every 10 days,and that any more was a waste.He was huge back in the day before he passed away.

Interesting. How old was he when he was using that amount ?
thx

**ontopthegame85** · 12-30-2011, 12:09 PM

He didn't start until he was 34.He gave me my first bottle of test(pharmacy grade)he would would run it for about 4-6 months at that dose and come off no pct and still make gains.Man I miss my pops.

**GeorgeForemanRules** · 12-30-2011, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by AZ123

If I use a min amount of juice, say 250 Sust and 200 Dec (per week) and I am experiencing the positive effects of steroids, great pump, strength increase, weight increase etc....why would I need to use more than that amount. Assuming I train and eat properly and take it for like 8-10 weeks with the right PCT ?
I mean I never hear people use this small amount. If I see the effects than why not ? Is the logic that - the gains will not last long (post cycle) cause that is not a big enough amount ?

Low dose is the way to go. You will make great gains for several cycles doing that, as long as you keep training hard and eating right.

Most guys just use more drugs to replace their lack of brains. That is they are lazy, dependent on steroids, and do not adapt at all in their diet or training....they just think more is better and that steroids are the only answer.

Another thing to consider is you will not grow forever no matter what you take, so be realistic about your expectations. The body does not adapt or stop absorbing steroids, it just can only grow so much. If you have a headache 800mg of motrin will help, so taking 80,000mg is better right? That is the logic you have to avoid at all costs.

**AZ123** · 12-30-2011, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules

Low dose is the way to go. You will make great gains for several cycles doing that, as long as you keep training hard and eating right.

Most guys just use more drugs to replace their lack of brains. That is they are lazy, dependent on steroids, and do not adapt at all in their diet or training....they just think more is better and that steroids are the only answer.

Another thing to consider is you will not grow forever no matter what you take, so be realistic about your expectations. The body does not adapt or stop absorbing steroids, it just can only grow so much. If you have a headache 800mg of motrin will help, so taking 80,000mg is better right? That is the logic you have to avoid at all costs.

yeah that is correct. I think first few cycles I used (many years ago) were not used properly. Did not work out right, thought that high cals means almost anything goes. Also did not pay much attention to PCT , especially PCT training and diet. This time I will do it right. Monitor my weight etc carefully and all that.

ontopthegame85 what your dad used was interesting, I can see how that will work for a non competitive bodybuilder.

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