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    Holy Hell Clen and T3 Side Effect

    So I'm a 26yo male on Clen and T3 day 3. Currently at 80mcg clen / 50mcg t3.... today i had the worst experience of my life. Panic attacks, mad shaking, hot but goosebumps, sweating my ass off, almost passed out. Took a hot shower cuz I was cold but had goosebumps all the way through. FInally took a xanax and was able to control the crazy mental effects. Anyone know when I can expect the sides to chill a bit? I may have to cut my losses and chuck it. MP is no joke...

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    I can only go 60mcg's on Clen and I'm done.
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    Did u start at those doses?

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    Your beta 2 receptors begin to downregulate fairly quickly in response to the clen. I'd lower the dosage back down to 40 or 60 and then ramp up over the weeks time. Clen stops working after a few weeks so by the time you're up to the full dosage of 100-120, you'll already need to cycle off.

    I personally hate clen. it's the only cutter that truely made me feel AWFUL. I lost so much sleep on clen due to its insanely long active life (for a cutter) that I ended up getting sick and losing the bad weight instead of the good weight. If you don't like clen, try albuterol. Or, just drop your clen doses.

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    Heavy: Do you see decent results from that? Sound like the same side effects on anything higher?

    BB129: No i started at 40mcg / 25mcg(t3). However where I get my RC's (orange caps for everything) they only make them in 40mcg capsules so hard to take apart and dose right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MovinWeight View Post
    Heavy: Do you see decent results from that? Sound like the same side effects on anything higher?

    BB129: No i started at 40mcg / 25mcg(t3). However where I get my RC's (orange caps for everything) they only make them in 40mcg capsules so hard to take apart and dose right...
    I honestly like Caffeine way better. T3 and Caffeine has always treated me well. My wife can take 100mcg's Clen no problem. Me, no way in hell. I get all cracked out on Clen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pieguy View Post
    Your beta 2 receptors begin to downregulate fairly quickly in response to the clen. I'd lower the dosage back down to 40 or 60 and then ramp up over the weeks time. Clen stops working after a few weeks so by the time you're up to the full dosage of 100-120, you'll already need to cycle off.

    I personally hate clen. it's the only cutter that truely made me feel AWFUL. I lost so much sleep on clen due to its insanely long active life (for a cutter) that I ended up getting sick and losing the bad weight instead of the good weight. If you don't like clen, try albuterol. Or, just drop your clen doses.
    thanks for the advice. id hate to waste it all seeing as im only on day 3. ill go back down to 60. ive also been taking the entire days dosage at one time. do you recommend splitting it up? 40 in the morning, 40 at night?

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    Don't take Clen at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    I honestly like Caffeine way better. T3 and Caffeine has always treated me well. My wife can take 100mcg's Clen no problem. Me, no way in hell. I get all cracked out on Clen.

    I'm prone to anxiety and take an everyday pill so I kinda knew this was a risky cycle. Unfort I'm sensitive to caffeine too. Can only handle about 300mg daily... and not all at once. But def know what you're saying about being cracked out. I can't even think straight. Luckily I have off work all week or I'd probably get fired for being on crack.

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    ok not at night but maybe split up 4-6 hours apart or does that reduce the benefits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MovinWeight View Post
    ok not at night but maybe split up 4-6 hours apart or does that reduce the benefits?
    You can take 1/2 am and half around noon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    You can take 1/2 am and half around noon.
    music to my ears. that should fix my problem. 40mcg was intense for like an hour but then it was nothing... thanks bro

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    Didn't matter when I took clen, it would fuck up my sleeping schedule. Clen's active life is well beyond 24 hours so when you take it isn't really relevant. When you're cracked out, you're cracked out. Splitting the dosages won't really do anything nor will taking it in the morning, despite the fact that all the "guides" say to. Also, benadryl does not upregulate beta 2 receptors, only ketotifen fumarate will. From the clen I've used though, the bad sides dissipate after a few hours (heart racing, palpitations, warming, etc.) so i wouldn't pop a pill then try to sleep.

    I recommend just keeping the dosages low if you're hyper-sensitive like heavyiron and just cruise along for 2 weeks, then take 2 weeks off, then back on for another 2. MP makes a CEC stack which is Ephedrine + T3 + Caffeine which is a hell of a lot better imo in the long run. Pre-workout is when i'd take it. I love the good old fashioned ECA stack + t3. Clen actually makes me weaker while ECA stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pieguy View Post
    Didn't matter when I took clen, it would fuck up my sleeping schedule. Clen's active life is well beyond 24 hours so when you take it isn't really relevant. When you're cracked out, you're cracked out. Splitting the dosages won't really do anything nor will taking it in the morning, despite the fact that all the "guides" say to. Also, benadryl does not upregulate beta 2 receptors, only ketotifen fumarate will. From the clen I've used though, the bad sides dissipate after a few hours (heart racing, palpitations, warming, etc.) so i wouldn't pop a pill then try to sleep.

    I recommend just keeping the dosages low if you're hyper-sensitive like heavyiron and just cruise along for 2 weeks, then take 2 weeks off, then back on for another 2. MP makes a CEC stack which is Ephedrine + T3 + Caffeine which is a hell of a lot better imo in the long run. Pre-workout is when i'd take it. I love the good old fashioned ECA stack + t3. Clen actually makes me weaker while ECA stronger.
    I may just have to be a bitch and keep it to 40-60mcg. Just hope it works. I'm running this for four weeks, 2 off and then going into my next cycle. Test P/E, SuperDMZ, Tren A...

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    Also Heavy... Please take a few hours and log the last few years of your life and send so I can look like that... NO HOMO!

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    Also, Heavy what were you running t3 at?

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    i need to pop a bdryl with using more than 60mcg. it helps... i can run 100-120 but have shakes. minor hot flashes and some shaking in my abs that makes me nauseous sometimes lmao

    i would rather do eca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MovinWeight View Post
    Also, Heavy what were you running t3 at?
    I like T3 around 40-50mcg's daily.
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    my wife can run 150mcgs and shes ok, i take 100mcgs and i feel like im going to jump out of my skin

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    I honestly like Caffeine way better. T3 and Caffeine has always treated me well. My wife can take 100mcg's Clen no problem. Me, no way in hell. I get all cracked out on Clen.
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    my wife can run 150mcgs and shes ok, i take 100mcgs and i feel like im going to jump out of my skin

    WTH. My friend was taking 110mcg and had zero sides. I took 40-50 and I cramped up all the time. At 60mcg I felt uneasy. Are your wives superheroes? got-damn.
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    Benadryl helps with the sides? I thought it helped clear receptors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MovinWeight View Post
    Benadryl helps with the sides? I thought it helped clear receptors?
    Benadryl does not help clear receptors. It does help you sleep though. 2-3 benadryl will put most people out cold.

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    Keto clears the receptors and taurine helps with the cramps. A good read on Clen isI think) women and drugs. Something like that. Do a search...

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    Cool. Thanks all for the extra info. Knew going in it was going to be tough on me considering my anxiety issue. Hoping Tren isn't as bad. But wanted to lean up as much as possible before my last cycle in a while.

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    Man I started at 20mcg of clen and worked my way up to 400mcg split in 4 doses throughout the day with 100mcg of T3 a day lost a good amount of BF... I did sweat my ass off though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhsbigmike View Post
    Man I started at 20mcg of clen and worked my way up to 400mcg split in 4 doses throughout the day with 100mcg of T3 a day lost a good amount of BF... I did sweat my ass off though!
    You either have underdosed Clen or ur receptors are severely downregulated. 400mcg is extreme overkill. I hope ur running AAS otherwise kiss ur lbm goodbye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhsbigmike View Post
    Man I started at 20mcg of clen and worked my way up to 400mcg split in 4 doses throughout the day with 100mcg of T3 a day lost a good amount of BF... I did sweat my ass off though!
    400mcg - that gives me panic attacks just thinking about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhsbigmike View Post
    Man I started at 20mcg of clen and worked my way up to 400mcg split in 4 doses throughout the day with 100mcg of T3 a day lost a good amount of BF... I did sweat my ass off though!
    ...the hell you still alive?

    Seriously, you should get your adrenal glands checked by a endocrinologist. If that clen was legit, then your glands are probably shot to shit.
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    forgive my ignorance but what happens if your adrenal glands are shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paolo584 View Post
    forgive my ignorance but what happens if your adrenal glands are shot?
    Instead of me boring you and wasting bandwidth, check this information out...
    http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/adrenal_burnout.htm
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