Thread: Endo?

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Wait at least a couple of Weeks after pct to go to the endo, if you go earlier you may not get a true picture of where you're at because of the pct drugs.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

Wait at least a couple of Weeks after pct to go to the endo, if you go earlier you may not get a true picture of where you're at because of the pct drugs.

Thanks for the reply. Thats what I figured tho. I'm about 6 weeks out of PCT so about a month and a half. do you think this is ample time to go get them tested again?

Why exactly do you have an appt with an endo? You are 20 and 6 weeks out of pct so why was an appt made even made?

Did your pcp recommend making the appt?

No offense but did you even read my OP? its all stated in there....also I dont get how my age has anything to do with this...

EDIT: just seen that last sentence. Yes he did recommend it. should I just avoid it all together?

Yes I would advise you to cancel it. As stated above you can recheck your levels after more time has passes and if your pct was solid and successful you should be back to normal. The endo will definitely question the cause and look for reasons.

Edit: I understand you do not have a baseline but for now let's assume you are a healthy 20 yr old male so your values should normally be in the upper middle range.

Originally Posted by KUVinny

Yes I would advise you to cancel it. As stated above you can recheck your levels after more time has passes and if your pct was solid and successful you should be back to normal. The endo will definitely question the cause and look for reasons.

Thanks Kuv. Thats what I figured. Im pretty sure they were just low cause I was in PCT but there is no way to explain that to your parents haha. Im thinking like you said just go in, in a couple weeks and just get another blood test but can't I just do that at the endo or will he just want to find out in more detail? thinking at most he will prescribe clomid or nolva, maybe hcg or arimi to bring up the natural levels if in fact they are still low.

You can go to the endo soon because 6 Weeks after pct is plenty of time. You can wait an additional two Weeks if you want. But do you have a reason to go, are you feeling ok? low libido, low energy, etc?

Originally Posted by Kwabby6

Thanks Kuv. Thats what I figured. Im pretty sure they were just low cause I was in PCT but there is no way to explain that to your parents haha. Im thinking like you said just go in, in a couple weeks and just get another blood test but can't I just do that at the endo or will he just want to find out in more detail? thinking at most he will prescribe clomid or nolva, maybe hcg or arimi to bring up the natural levels if in fact they are still low.

At your age, the endo will likely first get repeat blood tests done. He or she will inquire about steroid usage, as well as family history of disease and request all other medical records on file. It is highly unlikely the doctor will give you any prescriptions at the first visit.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

You can go to the endo soon because 6 Weeks after pct is plenty of time. You can wait an additional two Weeks if you want. But do you have a reason to go, are you feeling ok? low libido, low energy, etc?

Kinda, somewhat. I dont want to be cliche and say i have a hard time getting an erection or dont feel like working out as much as I did precycle because I dont really remember my energy level pre-cycle and it would be foolish for me to compare it to being on cycle because of course my motivation and sex drive will drop slightly since im off cycle. BUT def still getting erections, and motivation is still active. Slight trouble paying attention to some things but believe that has been due to me not getting enough rest lately (holidays). Do not think im depressed but have felt it slightly. I believe this is due to the fact I live close to chicago and are weather is about as unstable as the 7A elements lol. for example last week was decent weather, this morning was snowing and now there is no snow but ridiculous wind! Anyway being that this is my first cycle its kinda hard to say whether most of the "low test" symptoms im slightly feeling are from just being post cycle or are actually a underlying condition. thinking im just gonna run shic cycles from here on out

Originally Posted by KUVinny

At your age, the endo will likely first get repeat blood tests done. He or she will inquire about steroid usage, as well as family history of disease and request all other medical records on file. It is highly unlikely the doctor will give you any prescriptions at the first visit.

true and true. And thats what I was suspecting as well. As of right now im just going to get blood test around early april. only problem is im running a shic cycle for 6-8 weeks starting in the next 2 weeks. Hoping my natural test levels will be rebound by around the first week of april of course with PCT introduced when my cycle is over.

Problems I foresee will revolve around the time frame you intend to get new blood work done. If you start a cycle in 2 weeks you will need to terminate it by the end of February to allow yourself a minimum of 4 weeks to pct. And since you still have a week left of pct from the last cycle you are not giving your body any time to really get back into a sustained natural rhythm.

IMO, following your aforementioned plan, your next cycle will not be very worthwhile and the blood work that will follow will probably not be any better than this last one and certainly not indicative of where you truley are capable of being naturally.

how so? according to my calculations if I start in about 2 weeks (the 16th Jan) I will run my cycle till the 27th of February (SHIC cycle as stated) start PCT the 5th of March and run it for 4 weeks ending on april 2nd. Then waiting 6 weeks May 14th to go get tested again. would this not theoretically work?

I based my statements in response to your statement that you will go get blood tests around early April.

It may very well work out just as you hope, however I see posts from others here saying they have completed pct and weeks later feel lousy, get blood work and learn they have still not recovered yet.

Don't do another cycle so soon.


The point of a post cycle bloods is to see if you recovered. You are playing with fire at 20 year's old doing cycles anyway. You realize your endocrine system us upregulating your hormones at this point and you are manipulating your system, potentially screwing it up.

Stick with the time on time off and get blood work done if you need it. Alway's take fewer chances buddy, especially with a delicate system such as the Endrocrine.

Originally Posted by KUVinny

I based my statements in response to your statement that you will go get blood tests around early April.

It may very well work out just as you hope, however I see posts from others here saying they have completed pct and weeks later feel lousy, get blood work and learn they have still not recovered yet.

damn if I stated that then I must've miscalculated. but I agree with the latter statement. Also that could have to do with many factors I believe. I mean I am only running test lol no other compounds

Originally Posted by BP2000

Don't do another cycle so soon.


The point of a post cycle bloods is to see if you recovered. You are playing with fire at 20 year's old doing cycles anyway. You realize your endocrine system us upregulating your hormones at this point and you are manipulating your system, potentially screwing it up.

Stick with the time on time off and get blood work done if you need it. Alway's take fewer chances buddy, especially with a delicate system such as the Endrocrine.

I was well aware of the risk before I even injected. Thanks for the worry tho. If I were to stick with time on= time off, then I would be able to get back on exactly tomorrow.....I have already covered time on plus time off.

Actually, time off = (time on + pct)



Its a moot point now to try and dissuade you from cycling at your age. My purpose here is to play devil's advocate and say that there is a good possibility that your natural levels will not have recovered by early April or May for that matter based on the scenario and history you have provided above.

However I wish you the best in your endeavors...

My point is to get blood levels now rather than going back on cycle. Did you use HCG while on cycle and before pct?

Originally Posted by KUVinny

Actually, time off = (time on + pct)



Its a moot point now to try and dissuade you from cycling at your age. My purpose here is to play devil's advocate and say that there is a good possibility that your natural levels will not have recovered by early April or May for that matter based on the scenario and history you have provided above.

However I wish you the best in your endeavors...

haha thats what I meant to say sorry. but yes I agree that they might not be fully up by then. Im gonna have to think this one through thoroughly before I make any decisions. need to do more calculations. thanks once again.