Thread: Proviron and Letro on the cycle with DBol and Susta

Stats, cycle history?

bf around 7%, vascular, this should be a lean mass cycle,done test only cycle, diet is 6 meals per day of that is 4 with carbs..

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AGE
...letro ..seems lil much

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age:26, weight:172lbs,height:5.9, bf 7%, done test only cycle, training for few years heavy, diet 6 meals per day of that 4 with carbs, Cycle Goals: lean mass..

Coach said that i should use the dbol to the end of the cycle but i think that is too much, with the stanozolol or isnt? What i dont want is too many water retention and gyno and that bad side effects..

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I've ran 1.25 mg of letro eod and loved it but u being that lean you might be able to get away wit e3d cuz letro has a long half life. Just judge by the way you feel. If your sex drive is dropping and your skins getting dry then back off the letro. Only true way is get blood work for E levels. A lot of people will just recommend you take aromasin or dex wit this cycle though. Not sure on prov

Personally if you have never ran any orals before I would just do the dbol the first 4-6 weeks and that's it. No point in going all out wit winny and proviron if you've never touched orals.

Your Coach ? What sport...First time with an oral, no need to go 10 wks bro.
Any signs of gyno on first cycle?...Letro's a killer on estrogen, seems extreme. You need some estrogen in your system.

Yea i was not using orals before, another option is masteron or tren h.

Originally Posted by Dath

Your Coach ? What sport...First time with an oral, no need to go 10 wks bro.
Any signs of gyno on first cycle?...Letro's a killer on estrogen, seems extreme. You need some estrogen in your system.

he is a senior bodybuilder, and no gyno signs on the first cycle.
would be proviron good ?

1 proviron daily or every other day or 2 proviron every other day 1x morning 1x evening,

but i have on hands letro,proviron,nolva,clomid, (aromasin when i buy it)

I would not use proviron in place of an AI like arimidex or aromasin. I also would not use letro on cycle, as good, legit letro will crush estrogen levels, and you need a healthy amount of estrogen to grow. If you're set on letro though, I would go e3d, as someone else already suggested.

As far as orals, you don't need three in on cycle. I also wouldn't run the dbol for ten weeks.

Dude I would just run
500 mg sus ew
30-50mg dbol 4-6 weeks
20-40 mg Nolva Ed

Keep letro on hand for Gyno flare up and save the winny and prov for next cycle maybe with sus again for example

Originally Posted by bigbenj

I would not use proviron in place of an AI like arimidex or aromasin. I also would not use letro on cycle, as good, legit letro will crush estrogen levels, and you need a healthy amount of estrogen to grow. If you're set on letro though, I would go e3d, as someone else already suggested.

As far as orals, you don't need three in on cycle. I also wouldn't run the dbol for ten weeks.

Aromasin would be good alongside dbol? But i'll use later in the cycle letro

Originally Posted by tinyshrek

Dude I would just run
500 mg sus ew
30-50mg dbol 4-6 weeks
20-40 mg Nolva Ed

Keep letro on hand for Gyno flare up and save the winny and prov for next cycle maybe with sus again for example

for what you say the 20-40mg nolva

Aromasin would be great alongside dbol. As for letro, I would save that for if you have a big gyno flare up, or maybe post cycle to get rid of any small lumps you may have.

Letro is good for reducing gyno existinf gyno, but I don't recommend it on cycle.

I have some letro on hand that I will be using post cycle to try and get rid of some small lumps I have. On cycle I'm using arimidex to control estro.

I don't like nolva as an AI on cycle, as it is very suppressive. Nolva should be used in an emergency, or along side anadrol, because nolva is the only thing that can counteract anadrol, because anadrol doesn't aromatize.

Originally Posted by bigbenj

Aromasin would be great alongside dbol. As for letro, I would save that for if you have a big gyno flare up, or maybe post cycle to get rid of any small lumps you may have.

Letro is good for reducing gyno existinf gyno, but I don't recommend it on cycle.

I have some letro on hand that I will be using post cycle to try and get rid of some small lumps I have. On cycle I'm using arimidex to control estro.

yea but arimidex puts estrogens to zero

Originally Posted by dawun

yea but arimidex puts estrogens to zero

No, not like letro,
Arimidex is prolly the easiest to control E2 levels with. Armasion is another good choice.

^^^that

Okay i'll use arimidex or aromasin. But how much arimidex or aromasin and just while using the dbol or on the whole cycle?

Start with your arimidex .25-.50 mgs eod and adjust as needed (Only bloodwork can confirm ur levels).You'll run it full length of cycle,
And u can switch to aromasin if you choose w pct...which you haven't touched on yet.
Spend some time reading the Sticky's here . lotta great info

Okay thanks