Thread: Aromatization

I would base this on the half life of the product.

E is 16 days ish.

I believe test suspension and no ester are the same type deal at 3 days I think.

HOWEVER, your not going to get as much into your blood on the suspension \ no ester vs the injectable. so its a tough call.

Depending on doses etc, I would say start your arimidex at .25 ed and see where that takes you.

IMO injection far outweighs oral any day.

The quicker the ester the quicker the conversion. Seeing that suspension has no ester, pretty quick.

Originally Posted by darkrid3r

I would base this on the half life of the product.

E is 16 days ish.

I believe test suspension and no ester are the same type deal at 3 days I think.

HOWEVER, your not going to get as much into your blood on the suspension \ no ester vs the injectable. so its a tough call.

Depending on doses etc, I would say start your arimidex at .25 ed and see where that takes you.

IMO injection far outweighs oral any day.

Test e half life is 5.25 days
Suspension and tne are the same, and test base half life is a matter of hours.

No oral was even mentioned.

Further, not until the enanthate ester is cleaved does the test become actively useable and at that point the aromatization rates are the same. The difference in time to aromatization is a matter of how quickly the enzymatic process occurs. Then it's a question of amounts at any one given time.

Does that make any logical sense? Or am I way off?

Originally Posted by XYZ

The quicker the ester the quicker the conversion. Seeing that suspension has no ester, pretty quick.

^^^This

It is hard to quantify in numbers, but 100mg of TNE is going to aromatize almost instantly, whereas 250mg of Enanthate will aromatize more slowly over time.

Originally Posted by darkrid3r

I would base this on the half life of the product.

E is 16 days ish.

I believe test suspension and no ester are the same type deal at 3 days I think.

HOWEVER, your not going to get as much into your blood on the suspension \ no ester vs the injectable. so its a tough call.

Depending on doses etc, I would say start your arimidex at .25 ed and see where that takes you.

IMO injection far outweighs oral any day.

Where did you get this information from?

16 day half-life of an esterified compound is more like decanate or undecanoate

Someone is not informing you well enough on this stuff...

Just a theory here. If it converts to estrogen quickly, doesnt it also convert into dht quickly as well. we all know the natural a-e properties of dht, so im wondering if it helps a bit with the short esters. Ive noticed much worse bloat on test e and c than i ever have with suspension and prop for that matter. I dont know, just my observation.

^^lol thats what i was thinking! I dont get watery on prop ai or not but logically like gmo said it should be worse than long esters.

Originally Posted by SFW

Just a theory here. If it converts to estrogen quickly, doesnt it also convert into dht quickly as well. we all know the natural a-e properties of dht, so im wondering if it helps a bit with the short esters. Ive noticed much worse bloat on test e and c than i ever have with suspension and prop for that matter. I dont know, just my observation.

I was going to post this......usually shorter esters you don't see as much water retention. Ex, prop and tren as a cutting cycle........

Originally Posted by SFW

Just a theory here. If it converts to estrogen quickly, doesnt it also convert into dht quickly as well. we all know the natural a-e properties of dht, so im wondering if it helps a bit with the short esters. Ive noticed much worse bloat on test e and c than i ever have with suspension and prop for that matter. I dont know, just my observation.

^ This, Prop and suspension don't hold a candle to enanthate as far as bloat goes from my experience.

Originally Posted by Deity

^ This, Prop and suspension don't hold a candle to enanthate as far as bloat goes from my experience.

Exactly!!! Prop and especially suspension is way easier to control aromatization. That's why people use it precontest. Suspension u have to run ED because it's half life is like a day or so and prop you can get away with EOD

I've never really had any issues w/ bloating and tne. But, I've always bumped my ai up to help prevent.