Thread: Give Your Opinion!!!

Your BF is higher than 12%, what is your reasoning for body weight vs weight training for "slimming up?"

I would put some time in the gym lifting heavy before you go on cycle but it looks like you have a decent base to work with.

Originally Posted by IAMLEGEND1

Your BF is higher than 12%, what is your reasoning for body weight vs weight training for "slimming up?"

I said I took my BF% with a caliper and I thought it was more like 15%. And I have not hit the gym cause of personal reasons but that should be taken care of next week. Figured diet cardio and intense body weight circuits would be enough to drop some BF and tone up before my cycle. Whats your opinion?

Originally Posted by boyd.357

I would put some time in the gym lifting heavy before you go on cycle but it looks like you have a decent base to work with.

I figured that as well but how much time?

I personally think you should have more of a consistant weight training program in place, you could loose some BF naturally with it.

Your bf is more than12-15%. Your training is not right for aas use. Do alot of reading. Your diet is not good either 2000cals for 190 lb man? Do some reading. You are not a good candidate for aas bro. You will benefit wayy more from gear if everything else is rolling first. Just my opinion.

You really shouldn't do a cycle if you haven't put some serious weight training in yet. You'll be "getting in shape" on cycle when you should be well used to abusing your body w weight lifting.

Originally Posted by D-Latsky

Your bf is more than12-15%. Your training is not right for aas use. Do alot of reading. Your diet is not good either 2000cals for 190 lb man? Do some reading. You are not a good candidate for aas bro. You will benefit wayy more from gear if everything else is rolling first. Just my opinion.

Thanx for your opinion. My scale could be off but I am around 190 and I do consume around 2,000 a day now. Thats just to maintain my weight. I do feel I need to hit the gym and implement a consistent work out. I have a good routine, just need to put it to use. How long in the gym should I put in before I consider aas? Was not planning on jumping right on a cycle. This post was to get some feed back on what I need to improve. Are you saying I need to improve my DIET and TRAINING?

Bro we cant give you an Estimated Time needed in the gym before doing a cycle. Loose BF, implement weights, fix your diet, then post more pictures.

Originally Posted by IAMLEGEND1

Bro we cant give you an Estimated Time needed in the gym before doing a cycle. Loose BF, implement weights, fix your diet, then post more pictures.

Fair enough. Sounds good.

Originally Posted by YSGC

Fair enough. Sounds good.

First off bro, you did right by coming on laying everything out, diet,w/o ,posting pics, Asking questions. I got nothing to add that hasn't already been said, diet, regular routine,...
Just a thumbs up for doing it right. Establish your goals, dedicate yourself and you'll get there.

Have you ever lifted before?

Bodyfat is closer to 20%.

i was going to say at least 18 % bodyfat....

I see cardio after training in your future...

Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules

Have you ever lifted before?

Bodyfat is closer to 20%.

I used a BF% caliper. The caliper says I'm at 12% now I know the calipers are off. An I've been tole to add the 3% to what the caliper says. Now its kind of hard to belief the caliper would be off by 8%. And yes bro I've lifted before.

Originally Posted by Dath

First off bro, you did right by coming on laying everything out, diet,w/o ,posting pics, Asking questions. I got nothing to add that hasn't already been said, diet, regular routine,...
Just a thumbs up for doing it right. Establish your goals, dedicate yourself and you'll get there.

Thanx Bro.

Originally Posted by YSGC

I used a BF% caliper. The caliper says I'm at 12% now I know the calipers are off. An I've been tole to add the 3% to what the caliper says. Now its kind of hard to belief the caliper would be off by 8%. And yes bro I've lifted before.

Did you use the 3, 8, or 9 point caliper test?

Bro, you need to fix your diet for starters. And I definitely think you could use some help with training. You are not ready for aas at this point.

what do your lifts look like, deads/bench/squats

Originally Posted by YSGC

I used a BF% caliper. The caliper says I'm at 12%

You used it wrong then, you are closer to 20% bodyfat and you have 0 muscle mass.

Originally Posted by ManInBlack

what do your lifts look like, deads/bench/squats

Do you really think he squats?

Originally Posted by GeorgeForemanRules

Do you really think he squats?

You've brought up a good point.

I'd put your BF around 17%. You still need work on weight loss. My suggestion would be to get a better set of calipers, drop the fat to 9-10%, diet and train a bit more intelligently.

you probably wont like this answer but you need a good 3 years of quality weight training, and diet.

i would look at it this way,,, you should have such a solid natty base that people already believe your on gear; before you even think about it.

you honestly dont even look like you workout, but props for posting a pic.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

I'd put your BF around 17%. You still need work on weight loss. My suggestion would be to get a better set of calipers, drop the fat to 9-10%, diet and train a bit more intelligently.

I agree on the 17% bf.

I wouldn't get on gear for a long time.You can still get big naturally.Do a lot of compound movements.I would hit it hard before trying to diet and keep it clean.The more muscle the more bf you will burn.Your body will be like a furnace with more muscle.Id go with at least 4 k to get more muscle.You need to really hit the squats and presses.It will make your upper body grow more as it releases more hormones.
you have to start somewhere.Pushups are a waist of time for mass.There good for a burnout after a heavy chest routine.

Dont take these replys in a wrong way.
Good luck bro you will get there

All of your opinions have been noted. An I planned on hitting the gym within the next week. This thread was made for this very reason. I did not feel I was ready for aas, and a friend thought I was. So I post here to get some real advice. Thanx alot for everything.

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I agree on the 17% bf.

Thanx Bro for the PM. Your encouragement means a lot. Will be in the gym with in the next week starting my weight routine.