"Issues" during PCT

**malfeasance** · 01-23-2012, 05:18 AM

I am on day 12 of PCT following a mild test - Deca cycle.

clomid 100/100/75/50 aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
No blood tests.
I am strong as an ox - I have not lost any strength yet from the cycle. The issue I am having is low libido. Low drive and erection problems the last couple of days not cured by Cia from CEM (1 ml dose).
Oddly, I wake up at 4-5 a.m. every morning with a raging erection, but, after 10 mins of vigorous "activity" with my girlfriend this morning, even THAT just slowly went away.
This is very frustrating for her and me, and she does not know that I just did a cycle or that I am in PCT, so all of a sudden this loss of libido is coming along with no explanation.
IS THERE an explanation? This is my second cycle, and during PCT from my first cycle I was not seeing a "regular" girlfriend, so I do not know if this is normal and temporary.
No other issues of which I am aware.
Normal during PCT? If so, how long will this last?

**Robalo** · 01-23-2012, 05:20 AM

Always happens to me at the 2nd week of pct but it returns to normal by the end of it. Sometimes i extend the clomid to 5 weeks

**malfeasance** · 01-23-2012, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by Robalo

Always happens to me at the 2nd week of pct but it returns to normal by the end of it. Sometimes i extend the clomid to 5 weeks

Whew!

I have a little getaway planned with her in a few weeks, and this issue would absolutely ruin it!

**Dath** · 01-23-2012, 05:45 AM

It's common bro, stick with your pct , and you can always get some Cialis to help to help out. Gotta keep the girlfriend happy

**Robalo** · 01-23-2012, 05:45 AM

yeah, brother, that's not cool. Luckily the wifey understands these "downs"

**malfeasance** · 01-23-2012, 05:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dath

you can always get some Cialis to help to help out. Gotta keep the girlfriend happy

Well, that is what really worried me. From my first post:

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Low drive and erection problems the last couple of days not cured by Cia from CEM (1 ml dose).

1 ml is a lot, but the problem remained an hour later.

Got started up, but ten to fifteen to twenty minutes in (was not watching the clock) it just slowly went away.

**colochine** · 01-23-2012, 06:13 AM

What did your cycle look like? How long after your last pin did you wait to start PCT?

It sounds like deca dick to me, the test cleared but some deca still remains possibly?

Did you have any issue on cycle? Did you use anything for prolactin? Caber or prami?

Maybe look into getting one of those.

**malfeasance** · 01-23-2012, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by colochine

What did your cycle look like? How long after your last pin did you wait to start PCT?

It sounds like deca dick to me, the test cleared but some deca still remains possibly?

Did you have any issue on cycle? Did you use anything for prolactin? Caber or prami?

Maybe look into getting one of those.

Test 600, Deca 300 weekly, stopped Deca 4.5 weeks before stopping test, and ramped the test down slowly. Two weeks from last test pin to start PCT.

Used HCG at beginning of cycle, but not end. I had purchased enough for the cycle at 250 x 2 weekly, but had to double it to keep the balls large, and then ran out a little over halfway through the cycle. Doh! Of course, balls promptly shrank and remain so.

No issues on cycle, other than growing 22 pounds and having the libido of a teenager (something my girlfriend actually said a few weeks ago!). I used prami for prolactin even though some stated it was not needed on only 300 weekly of Deca. I continued Prami for 5 or 6 weeks after stopping Deca.

Like I said, mild cycle. Deca should have cleared, although the way my strength is staying up makes me wonder, but the normal advice is to wait to more weeks while continuing test, and I waited more than a month.

**rage racing** · 01-23-2012, 10:26 AM

Maybe the Aromasin is bunk or you need more? Estro rebound...

**malfeasance** · 01-23-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by rage racing

Maybe the Aromasin is bunk or you need more? Estro rebound...

Assuming I would need blood tests to determine this, right? No other issues, like tingly nips and such that would normally occur during high estro . . .

**Dath** · 01-23-2012, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Assuming I would need blood tests to determine this, right? No other issues, like tingly nips and such that would normally occur during high estro . . .

Yes bloodwork would be the only definate way

**XYZ** · 01-23-2012, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by rage racing

Maybe the Aromasin is bunk or you need more? Estro rebound...

Aromasin is a suicidal A/I so the possiblity of rebound is none.

**XYZ** · 01-23-2012, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Test 600, Deca 300 weekly, stopped Deca 4.5 weeks before stopping test, and ramped the test down slowly. Two weeks from last test pin to start PCT.

Used HCG at beginning of cycle, but not end. I had purchased enough for the cycle at 250 x 2 weekly, but had to double it to keep the balls large, and then ran out a little over halfway through the cycle. Doh! Of course, balls promptly shrank and remain so.

No issues on cycle, other than growing 22 pounds and having the libido of a teenager (something my girlfriend actually said a few weeks ago!). I used prami for prolactin even though some stated it was not needed on only 300 weekly of Deca. I continued Prami for 5 or 6 weeks after stopping Deca.

Like I said, mild cycle. Deca should have cleared, although the way my strength is staying up makes me wonder, but the normal advice is to wait to more weeks while continuing test, and I waited more than a month.

It "sounds" like you did everything correct. That being said, everyone is different and it just might take you a little longer. How old are you? The older you are the longer it might take to recover.

**malfeasance** · 01-23-2012, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by XYZ

How old are you? The older you are the longer it might take to recover.

Oh, I am OOOOLLLD.

44. Most people are shocked to discover that, but my birth certificate does not lie.

**malfeasance** · 01-23-2012, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dath

Yes bloodwork would be the only definate way

Scheduled, so we shall see shortly.

**rage racing** · 01-23-2012, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by XYZ

Aromasin is a suicidal A/I so the possiblity of rebound is none.

True

**XYZ** · 01-23-2012, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Oh, I am OOOOLLLD.

44. Most people are shocked to discover that, but my birth certificate does not lie.

This could be part of the issue. You're not old, just mature.

**rc771** · 01-23-2012, 04:56 PM

yeah i've had the same experiences at about 2 weeks...

i'm like 3 weeks past pct right now and i'm still having trouble adjusting to not wanting to fuck 20 times a day like when i was on lol...

**Calves of Steel** · 01-23-2012, 05:35 PM

You did everything right man. Scar tissue or blood flow issues can slow down the removal of gear from depots and extend its half life, I'd say extend the clomid and use some cialis or something to keep the GF happy

**exphys88** · 01-23-2012, 05:59 PM

any chance it's psychological? Have you been worried about this happening? I'm guessing that all the discussion of ED during pct has some guys so freaked about it that they create problems that don't exist. Not saying this happens to everyone, but the mind can really fuck you.

**malfeasance** · 01-24-2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Dath

Yes bloodwork would be the only definate way

Blood drawn today - results are 24-72 hours.

**Dath** · 01-24-2012, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Blood drawn today - results are 24-72 hours.

Excellent bro

Exphysiologist made a good point to bro ! Is it possible?

**malfeasance** · 01-24-2012, 08:11 AM

Possible? I suppose, but I am not really sure how I could tell if this is the case.

**Dath** · 01-24-2012, 08:17 AM

Well know soon Enough bro !

**exphys88** · 01-24-2012, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Possible? I suppose, but I am not really sure how I could tell if this is the case.

I've heard to test it while you're alone, and not worried about performance. watch some porn, and see if you have issues then.

**SloppyJ** · 01-24-2012, 09:58 AM

In for blood work.

**malfeasance** · 01-24-2012, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by exphysiologist88

I've heard to test it while you're alone, and not worried about performance. watch some porn, and see if you have issues then.

Ok, so I was alone

and everything worked ok.

Don't tell anybody.

Then she decided about 12 hours later to perform oral, and everything worked ok.

Not sure what the . . .

Anyway blood test results should be here tomorrow (or up until 72 hours).

**exphys88** · 01-24-2012, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by malfeasance

Ok, so I was alone

and everything worked ok.

Don't tell anybody.

Then she decided about 12 hours later to perform oral, and everything worked ok.

Not sure what the . . .

Anyway blood test results should be here tomorrow (or up until 72 hours).

A good percentage of Ed is psychological. Worrying about not getting it up can cause it to not go up.

**malfeasance** · 01-25-2012, 08:34 AM

Testosterone, serum 117 on a scale of 348 to 1197

Ouch!

LH is 0.2 on a scale of 1.7 to 8.6

Ouch!

FSH, serum 0.5 on a scale of 1.5 to 12.4

And

Estradiol 24.1 on a scale of 7.6 to 42.6

**XYZ** · 01-25-2012, 08:38 AM

These are your numbers after 2 weeks? If so get labs done again in another 4-6 weeks.

You're recovering still, obviously you need more time.

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