Thread: Help out an Old Guy

Originally Posted by sydneyelvis

Hi I'm 41 years old looking to do my first cycle. I've been training for 10 years. Im 5'10" & I weigh 83kgs. My diet is about 3000 calories per day with about 40% in protein. 40% carbs and 20% fats. Only one cheat day pr week. I currently have access to test e, test prop, dbols stanazolol, tren, and masteron. I train each body part twice a week.

I'm looking to gain some muscle to break through this damn plateau through the winter months here in Australia then unveil a new and vastly improved physique for spring 2012.

Any advice would be appreciated.

You ain't old. lol



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Hey!

At 51 I don't feel old so you certainly aren't either!

Need some more details here. 500 mg of test/week split into two equal injections is both a classic as well as very effective first cycle. Post up some more details and you'll get more help from everybody here. AAS is a good helper, but most of the benefit is your training and nutrition of which your nutrition sounds pretty good. What's the training look like?

I just turned 40. I've cycled several times since my early twenties. In my younger years I did it to build muscle. Now I do it to feel twenty again.

Originally Posted by sydneyelvis

Hi I'm 41 years old looking to do my first cycle. I've been training for 10 years. Im 5'10" & I weigh 83kgs. My diet is about 3000 calories per day with about 40% in protein. 40% carbs and 20% fats. Only one cheat day pr week. I currently have access to test e, test prop, dbols stanazolol, tren, and masteron. I train each body part twice a week.

I'm looking to gain some muscle to break hrough this damn plateau through the winter months here in Australia then unveil a new and vastl improved physique for spring 2012.

Any advice would be appreciated.

I recommend 500mg of test E spread through two injections a week for a total of 12 weeks. It's your first cycle, and at 41 that amount of test would rock your world. If you're feeling frisky I would up the test to 750mg and/or add dbol to kick start the first 4 weeks. You'll have plenty of time to cycle in the future so save the goodies like tren for later. Welcome to the club!

What ANIMALHOUSE said!

thanx for the help
mon... legs and shoulders
tues.. chest and abs
wed...biceps & triceps... traps
Thur... back & abs
Fri... full body but no back
Sat... off
Sun... back

rinse and repeat... ive been doing this program for one month & one week

whats better test e or p???

thanx again guys

That's a loaded question, but here it goes.

Prop is a short ester, and you wil start to feel results within a week. However, prop needs to be pinned everyday (some users can get away with every other day, but I think it's a waste).

Enanthate is a long ester, and it takes around 4-5 weeks to start seeing results. Enanthate can be pinned once a week, or 2x a week for stable blood levels.

I am personally pinning 800mg of Enanthate now. 400mg every monday and 400mg every Thursday.

mg for mg prop is the way to go, but I would NOT recommend prop to anyone for a first cycle.

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

That's a loaded question, but here it goes.

Prop is a short ester, and you wil start to feel results within a week. However, prop needs to be pinned everyday (some users can get away with every other day, but I think it's a waste).

Enanthate is a long ester, and it takes around 4-5 weeks to start seeing results. Enanthate can be pinned once a week, or 2x a week for stable blood levels.

I am personally pinning 800mg of Enanthate now. 400mg every monday and 400mg every Thursday.

mg for mg prop is the way to go, but I would NOT recommend prop to anyone for a first cycle.

^^^^ Exacty!

Keep it simple for your own sake. It is still a transition with a learning process to go through.

just focus on improving your training by motivating yourself, at 41 it is just the start ..i don't believe in any AAS and any of its benefits, i believe in hard work and dedication... i am 50 and still improving no AAS no Bullshit just pure lifting and sweat.

Originally Posted by bjg

just focus on improving your training by motivating yourself, at 41 it is just the start ..i don't believe in any AAS and any of its benefits, i believe in hard work and dedication... i am 50 and still improving no AAS no Bullshit just pure lifting and sweat.

You're annoying. The OP wants advice on a cycle, not advise on not to cycle.

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

I recommend 500mg of test E spread through two injections a week for a total of 12 weeks. It's your first cycle, and at 41 that amount of test would rock your world. If you're feeling frisky I would up the test to 750mg and/or add dbol to kick start the first 4 weeks. You'll have plenty of time to cycle in the future so save the goodies like tren for later. Welcome to the club!

Great advice here^^^^

I would run:
1-12 TestE 500mg EW
1-14 Aromasin 12.5 ED (adjust as needed)
2-12 HCG 250iu twice a week (1000iu EOD for 10 days after last test shot)

PCT: 14 days after last shot of TestE
Clomid 100/75/50/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Good luck brother.....

Originally Posted by deadlifter405

Hey!

At 51 I don't feel old so you certainly aren't either!

Need some more details here. 500 mg of test/week split into two equal injections is both a classic as well as very effective first cycle. Post up some more details and you'll get more help from everybody here. AAS is a good helper, but most of the benefit is your training and nutrition of which your nutrition sounds pretty good. What's the training look like?

Holy Crap 51, your old. Did you do a couple of cycles with Jesus??? What was the first steroid like????????? LOL. JK Man.

You are no where near old but a legend that can only help us young guys out through mentorship. Let us know a little bit more bro!!!

Originally Posted by Curt James

You ain't old. lol



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LOL...If 41 is old, then at 42.. am I considered to be going to a nursing home soon?

Originally Posted by Chrisotpherm

Holy Crap 51, your old. Did you do a couple of cycles with Jesus??? What was the first steroid like????????? LOL. JK Man.

You are no where near old but a legend that can only help us young guys out through mentorship. Let us know a little bit more bro!!!

My first cycles weren't with Jesus, that dude was clean. Now, John the Baptist on the other hand was one bad Mofo and frequently used testosterone directly from the testicles of slain Roman Centurions!

Originally Posted by rage racing

Great advice here^^^^

I would run:
1-12 TestE 500mg EW
1-14 Aromasin 12.5 ED (adjust as needed)
2-12 HCG 250iu twice a week (1000iu EOD for 10 days after last test shot)

PCT: 14 days after last shot of TestE
Clomid 100/75/50/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Good luck brother.....

I am planning a run shortly ay 48...... PCT: days after last shot you wrote

Clomid 100/75/50/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Is the per day? A week? please explain.

51 is old? Nobody told my beautiful 36 year old wife that! Guess I better break the news to her that I'm old, she will be crushed. Hope the baby takes the news ok, poor little girl with the old daddy!!

Originally Posted by ANIMALHOUSE

I recommend 500mg of test E spread through two injections a week for a total of 12 weeks. It's your first cycle, and at 41 that amount of test would rock your world. If you're feeling frisky I would up the test to 750mg and/or add dbol to kick start the first 4 weeks. You'll have plenty of time to cycle in the future so save the goodies like tren for later. Welcome to the club!

yes great advice ..i 'll give you a better one: jump from a 50 floors building ..you will have faster results

I think 500mg a week of test E or C would blow your mine, especially if you havent ran anything before in your early years. see for a kid my age who is younger, my test is already naturally so high, so when i run 300-500 it doesnt feel nearly enough. but with your age,(not saying your old), but with your age your test has already been declining for a couple years. Hell i bet an OTC supplement would make you feel good. but i think that you could start with 300-500 a week of test and see how your body reacts. My friends dad is on HRT and they give him one shot of Test C a week and its only 200mg. He says he feels like a king again. so i would start low. because i promise you at your age you will feel it.
P.S make sure to give it a good 3-4 weeks to "kick in" if your running C or E. stay away from all those other compounds right now. your not trying to be a bodybuilder. just want younger harder look again. or so im guessing

Originally Posted by bjg

yes great advice ..i 'll give you a better one: jump from a 50 floors building ..you will have faster results

We all get it, you're anti-gear. But this is a board for learning about the use of AAS in a safe a manner as possible. Your opinion matters, but most of us will disagree with you and question your reason for being here.

First Cycle and PCT

Originally Posted by deadlifter405

My first cycles weren't with Jesus, that dude was clean. Now, John the Baptist on the other hand was one bad Mofo and frequently used testosterone directly from the testicles of slain Roman Centurions!

Reps for being a good sport man. I like guys you man, take a joke and keeping on going. I wish you amazing gains and size on your cycle. You have some fantastic bro's in here sounding off with awesome advice!!!

Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

We all get it, you're anti-gear. But this is a board for learning about the use of AAS in a safe a manner as possible. Your opinion matters, but most of us will disagree with you and question your reason for being here.

Can I get a an amen and some reps for this brother????????????

Thanx to all
much appreciated
ill be starting next week

Originally Posted by bjg

yes great advice ..i 'll give you a better one: jump from a 50 floors building ..you will have faster results

Here's a thought. Put a blindfold over your eyes, grab some sharp objects and then around in traffic.

Originally Posted by dutchmaster454

I think 500mg a week of test E or C would blow your mine, especially if you havent ran anything before in your early years. see for a kid my age who is younger, my test is already naturally so high, so when i run 300-500 it doesnt feel nearly enough. but with your age,(not saying your old), but with your age your test has already been declining for a couple years. Hell i bet an OTC supplement would make you feel good. but i think that you could start with 300-500 a week of test and see how your body reacts. My friends dad is on HRT and they give him one shot of Test C a week and its only 200mg. He says he feels like a king again. so i would start low. because i promise you at your age you will feel it.
P.S make sure to give it a good 3-4 weeks to "kick in" if your running C or E. stay away from all those other compounds right now. your not trying to be a bodybuilder. just want younger harder look again. or so im guessing

Don't want to highjack this thread but I'm 48 and wanted to pin some Test E a week and wondering if its critical to be using HCG and Aromasin? I never used and just wanted to fire up the old system.

Originally Posted by MULCH63

Don't want to highjack this thread but I'm 48 and wanted to pin some Test E a week and wondering if its critical to be using HCG and Aromasin? I never used and just wanted to fire up the old system.

I would not use HCG at 48. At your age I would be on TRT so I just don't see the need for it. The amount of test your using a week will determine whether or not you should be taking aromasin.