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    Newb concerns and questions about PCT

    Hello all, I'm 37, 6', 200 lbs, ~14% bf, working out for 6 months, lost 50 pounds since May.

    I plan on doing a modified version of OldSchoolLifter's Lean Mass Beginner Cycle. I have never used steroids before and I'm wanting to try 1 cycle to kick this up a notch and see what happens.

    Here is what I have on order and will be sending off for tonight:


    The Cycle

    1-8 Testodex Enanthate 500mg/wk ( Inject 2 x Per Week ie; Mon/Thurs )
    1-8 Stanodex 10 30mg/ed

    PCT
    8-10 Clomid 75mg/ed
    11-12 Clomid 50mg/ed

    My concerns aren't quite as much will this give me a lot of bulk as much as, will doing this for 8-12 weeks with what I have listed give me any kooky ass recovery? Having never done it before, with normal testosterone levels, a good head of hair, no acne to speak of, and a relatively even mood set can I expect to bounce back to normal levels within a month or so without having to worry about any lasting damage I did to myself?

    Also, if I am missing something important I should be taking beside the 3 things I will be taking, or the times I should be taking them, please let me know. My diet will consist of a lot of chicken, fish, egg whites, Weight Watchers lunches, 1 soda per day, minimal alcohol, and a cheat day here and there.

    I will make a progress thread with lots of pics when I start this, which I hope will be within 2 weeks. Thank you all in advance.

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    Okay, I updated my order to include Aromasin, as this seems to be extremely important, so basically I am doing his Beginner with Win added. Right or wrong, this is what I am going with, lol. Does this seem like an okay first time cycle with realistic expectations on gains and hopes of a mild PCT?

    The Cycle
    1-10 Test E 500mg/wk ( Inject 2 x Per Week ie; Mon/Thurs )
    1-8 Winstrol 30mg/ed
    1-15 Aromasin 12.5mg/EOD

    Pct
    12-13 Clomid 75mg/ed
    14-15 Clomid 50mg/ed



    What You Need
    Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml - 10ml Vial x 2 Vials
    Winstrol 10 – 100 Tabs x 2 packs
    Aromasin 25 -25 tabs x 2 packs
    Clomid 50mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 1 pack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap'n Luvhandles View Post
    Okay, I updated my order to include Aromasin, as this seems to be extremely important, so basically I am doing his Beginner with Win added. Right or wrong, this is what I am going with, lol. Does this seem like an okay first time cycle with realistic expectations on gains and hopes of a mild PCT?

    The Cycle
    1-10 Test E 500mg/wk ( Inject 2 x Per Week ie; Mon/Thurs )
    1-8 Winstrol 30mg/ed
    1-15 Aromasin 12.5mg/EOD

    Pct
    12-13 Clomid 75mg/ed
    14-15 Clomid 50mg/ed




    What You Need
    Testosterone Enanthate 250mg/ml - 10ml Vial x 2 Vials
    Winstrol 10 – 100 Tabs x 2 packs
    Aromasin 25 -25 tabs x 2 packs
    Clomid 50mg Tabs - 50 Tabs x 1 pack

    Looks fairly solid, what made you choose winstrol though? Also 30mg ed is on the low end for dosage and 8 weeks might mess with your lipids a bit. I seriously doubt it's cause for concern just thought I'd mention :P

    I think there are better choices for an oral than winny, but some guys like it so I'll leave that up to you. Depends on your goals I guess, what're you looking to get out of this cycle exactly? As per your pct question though, I think you'll recover just fine with that. Doesn't get much better than clomid+aromasin, throw in hcg throughout the cycle at 500iu 2x a week if you're really sweating it but I think you'd be fine without it.
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    The test e is ok. If i were you i'd drop the winstrol. At 14% you wont see the full potential of the compound. If your going to run it anyway i would run it the last 4 weeks of the cycle at 50mgs a day. Aromasin is ok to run during the cycle but i prefer adex at .5mgs e3d or eod depending how you feel. Your pct should be clomid 100/100/75/50 aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5. Also you should consider running hcg 250iu 2x a wk starting on week 2. It will make pct much easier.

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    Okay, I am ready to start my cycle. I'm not sure what results to expect since my BF is still at 14%, but I am using the cycle to assist, not do all the work.

    My question is since I am worried as much, if not more, about lowering my bodyfat I plan on eating pretty low calories per day with really high protein supplemented. Would this be a huge hindrance to even being on a cycle? Should I just give it another 3 months natural while working my ass off and eating a super low calorie diet and then do the cycle while upping my calories?

    Basically, should I do the light cycle while dieting on less than 2,000 calories per day or should I wait? Keep in mind, I am not looking to get huge, just want to get lean while adding some solid muscle and tone.

    At this point, I am thinking of just doing the cycle while dieting. I'm 36, never done a cycle before, my hair is thick/good, my joints are good except for an injured left surgically repaired shoulder. I'm worried about the PCT mood swing a little because I have had such a rough year, but that rough year is what has spurned my desire to get back in shape.

    This is the cycle I have chosen:

    The Cycle
    1-10 Test E 500mg/wk ( Inject 2 x Per Week ie; Mon/Thurs )
    1-8 Winstrol 30mg/ed
    1-15 Aromasin 12.5mg/EOD

    Pct
    12-13 Clomid 75mg/ed
    14-15 Clomid 50mg/ed

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