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  1. 01-27-2012, 06:54 PM #1
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    new guy here needs some advice please

    hi every one i have just started training and i have d-bol 10mg pills and anavar 20 mg pillsi have no idea when or how mant to take can some one please help THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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    as stated in your last post....

    STATS? age, hieght, weight how many cycles under your belt, goals for your cycle and so on?

    ALSO please tell me your running test with these as well. if not then im not telling u anything



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    i am 32 5"10 190 i am new to all this been working out for a while just cant gain size
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    Quote Originally Posted by irishprince10 View Post
    i am 32 5"10 190 i am new to all this been working out for a while just cant gain size
    great. thats a start. i will answer you in your other thread this is for intro only
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    ok so were u want me to go my friend?
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    do not take both pills together.......alpha 17's..welcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by charley View Post
    do not take both pills together.......alpha 17's..welcome
    theyr actually pretty great together. hes just not ready for that yet..
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    you need to take some kind of test, and would say that you should look at some milkthisle as well dude! very hard on your liver!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ab.canada.81 View Post
    you need to take some kind of test, and would say that you should look at some milkthisle as well dude! very hard on your liver!
    help with d-bol and anavar

    hesgot three threads about this already and has answers in them already. I should have posted this so others would know not to answer them in here. This sections is for intros only.

    to the OP: please only make one thread from now on. there is no need 2 make three different thread about the same exact thing. to me it seems like yours waiting for some one to tell u to take just dbol and var and nothing else and no one is going to tell you that. read the stickies, research research and research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofargone561 View Post
    theyr actually pretty great together. hes just not ready for that yet..

    ..........i've read many times that alpha 17 orals are liver toxic [as all roids to some point].....and never taken more than one at a time......

    ..What makes a steroid liver toxic is a modification to its structure known as a methylation in the 17th position. This is typically referred to as a "17 alpha alkylated" or "17-aa" oral steroid. This modification allows the steroid to pass the liver and avoid excretion, thus giving them higher potency than non-17-aa steroids. (1-7) 17-aa steroids also negatively affect the liver...
    Bile salts are known as the liver's "cleansing agents" because they act as "soaps" that carry away the toxins and flush them into the intestines for excretion. If the bile flow is restricted in the liver, then the liver cannot rid itself of toxins. When the liver loses its ability to excrete toxins, it creates a buildup of toxins throughout the entire body. (1-13)

    If a liver becomes cholestatic for too long, the condition can begin damaging liver cells by causing necrosis (premature death of liver cells) from excessive toxin build up in the liver. This can eventually lead to cirrhosis of the liver (development of fibrous scar tissue) when the liver attempts to regenerate the damaged liver cells. This leads to loss of liver function from the replacement of healthy liver cells with fibrous connective tissue. (2)
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