Thread: It was low T

You will definitely see results. You'll be going from the test levels of a woman, back to the levels of a man.

I hear you bro. Mine was at 140. Doc told me I have the T levels of an 80 yr old man. I know you're not usually going to feel any results for a couple of weeks, but it seems that after my first treatment (shot), my moodiness has started to subside.
Hopefully it's the shot and not just relief that I've finally been able to get some real help instead of some weak gel to smear on my chest.

Well they took blood at 8am. I am wondering hkw much higher could it be in the a.m to change numbers. Also what the dr might say? He was eurologist for years before family practise. I just dont want to get my hopes up but my wife is behind me and i should be adement about what i want she says?

,,,,Zane.....after my first 5 or 6 weeks....my shots of 300 mgs ew[test e] ...made me feel like a rain shower in the arid desert that brings back life....you know flowers and stuff..
....no kidding... i felt more like the dirty ol'man i really am......i don't mean to sound corny
....but my sex drive was returning.......

........................charley

.........i do not use doctors... most won't give you what you need for 6 months....

...they say out of fear not wanting to do harm......i say ''they're trying to make another car payment''......with
your money.............

......buy online...inject yourself.....much cheaper....with you in control.....

Thats the other issue, i dont have insurance now, and wouldnt injection be cheaper than the patch or gel? That was my thought anyway.

All depends on how much mg's your put on ew or eow...personally I think you will only get the feel good from TRT protocol/dosage..

If you get a script from your doc you can get your scripted meds from costco or sam's for around $70

Originally Posted by Zane

Well they took blood at 8am. I am wondering hkw much higher could it be in the a.m to change numbers. Also what the dr might say? He was eurologist for years before family practise. I just dont want to get my hopes up but my wife is behind me and i should be adement about what i want she says?

Your a.m. number will be your highest because thats when your natural test peaks.

Originally Posted by Zane

Thats the other issue, i dont have insurance now, and wouldnt injection be cheaper than the patch or gel? That was my thought anyway.

Dont worry about, trt is cheap.

I want injecection, so thats my angle. No insurance and the cheaper choice. I have always wanted to run aas and didnt have the stones (no pun intended) to order. I never would have thought this is how i would get my hands on it though? I am like a kid and xmas eve!

^^initially your doc might want to put you on the gel or the patch

I told my doc I have an infant at home and the gel was not an option for me...

Nice!!! As i have a 8sticky month old now. I better put that one in my notes

I agree search long and hard for as many good sources as you can, and keep close tabs on them. It's much cheaper to do it yourself and you will more than likely want to take more than they prescribe you. 250-300mg a week feels great to me, they'd probably give you 125mg or lower. You might need to use some small amount of AI with this, possibly get bloodwork after the first 6 weeks to check your estrogen levels (look for the sticky on the previous page and you can get this test for $50). I generally just split up 1mg a-dex tab and take quarters throughout the week. I've experimented with my test dosage a bit so I sometimes use more or less than this, but I've had no issues with gyno or anything like that.


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^^yeah def cheaper to do it yourself...

I prepared myself for this and got a nice arsenal, plus I make my own brew

I still get pharm grade test thru my doc (script) at my local pharmacy

Originally Posted by bigbenj

You will definitely see results. You'll be going from the test levels of a woman, back to the levels of a man.

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

Your a.m. number will be your highest because thats when your natural test peaks.

My a.m. test revealed a level of 117!
I was in PCT, though.

Originally Posted by bulldogz

^^initially your doc might want to put you on the gel or the patch

I told my doc I have an infant at home and the gel was not an option for me...

I got lucky, 4 months into Testim gel I developed a skin reaction and was switched to Androgel which I did not absorb at all. I was in a near coma at zero Testosterone until I got put on T-cyp injections and all was great after that!

Originally Posted by deadlifter405

I got lucky, 4 months into Testim gel I developed a skin reaction and was switched to Androgel which I did not absorb at all. I was in a near coma at zero Testosterone until I got put on T-cyp injections and all was great after that!

............Thats's amazing....it shows you the power of test.....

............how many mgs per week ?

............charley

Originally Posted by Zane

With out going into all my past like the last post, but i did get the lab call today on my blood work. My T level is 150 , i have to have blood drawn again in the am. To check what is causing it? Also i did mention injection is all i will take. But i also am wondering if the amount that might be perscribed, will i not only feel better, but will i see any gains i have working on for years with hardly results?

Most patients will maintain around the 1000 nd/dL when taking 100 mg per week. A dose of 200 mg per week is likely to result in spikes probably at 2000 ng/dL. After regular use you are going to be supra-physiological much (if not all) of the time. This dose, for most people, is high if you want to stick with true HRT.

I just sat through a few lectures this weekend. One doctor uses a dose of 60 mg per week and heavy followups on labwork to make sure levels are maintained at the higher end of normal. Another HRT doc used 100 mg per week. I think 100 mg is becoming the norm, and probably best dose for MOST (not all) patients.

You can justify 200 mg per week when referring to the prescribing guidelines, which recommend 50-400 mg every 2-4 weeks. Most docs can use this without feeling they will be under scrutiny. The real way to know if you doc is trying to maintain you at the end of normal, or just give you a modest running dose on the higher end, is the amount of follow up blood work he/she is doing on you. It is possible some people NEED 200 mg; most don't though.

Originally Posted by Zane

Thats the other issue, i dont have insurance now, and wouldnt injection be cheaper than the patch or gel? That was my thought anyway.

Most definitely, My test was 167ng, and my gp started me oput on 5% cream that is 50mg ed with an absorption rate of of 10-25%. If you break that down on the high side that is 87.5mg a week. The cost of the cream was $50/month. It didn't to anything for me to say the least. I am in the same boat as you, no insurance.If you do a normal trt dose 150-200mgwk of test cyp you can get 12-14 weeks for roughly the same cost. For me it was no brainer. I told my gp and he agreed.

Ok to gents, i had blood done yesterday morn. No results from the dr. But the symptoms were getting unberable , i thought i was going down and fast. I called and scheduled an appoi.tment. he found my T coumt yesterday morn 220. Blood pressure was up and heart was flying. He injected 200mg of test depo. Said two weeks for another or come in sooner if i feel bad again. I started feeling better within 20 min. Awsome!!!

Originally Posted by Zane

Ok to gents, i had blood done yesterday morn. No results from the dr. But the symptoms were getting unberable , i thought i was going down and fast. I called and scheduled an appoi.tment. he found my T coumt yesterday morn 220. Blood pressure was up and heart was flying. He injected 200mg of test depo. Said two weeks for another or come in sooner if i feel bad again. I started feeling better within 20 min. Awsome!!!

Your injections should be once a week minimum. Twice a week is best to keep levels stable. Youre gonna crash by day 7.