Thread: Possible cycle

Hey bros, how would you change or improve this cycle? I'm thinking of some possible combinations.
(is just hypothetical, how would YOU do it for YOURSELF. Goal is maximum muscle gain and shredded look after week 6)

1-4 Test P 100mg EOD
1-5 Dbol 50mg ED
1-12 Test E 750mg EW
1-9 Tren E 400mg EW

1-4 Insulin 10IU 4xW
1-6 T3 50mcg
5-7 Clenbuterol 80mcg ED


Insulin - pre workout with 3 shakes around workout (BCAA, Glutamine, EAA, Creatine, carbs and in 3rd +Whey)

You can add some compunds too.
AI and other ancillaries are included.

Note: no short esters except Test P at start and I don't have probs with aromatization and sides (so Dbol is OK).


Also take a look at this article, and say what you think:
Insulin and T3:
With the huge increases in fat mass often accompanying insulin use, it seems like a simple solution to use thyroid hormone. Unfortunately, this doesn't work out very well. The reason is that thyroid hormone (specifically T3 and possibly T4) increases the amount of the "bad" IGF1-BP's mentioned earlier;IGFBP2 and IGFBP4. This may not seem like a big deal if one is not using drugs to stimulate IGF-1 synthesis, but IGF-1 levels are naturally stimulated through acts like stretching, and even natural testosterone/GH increases. All of these things normally accompany workouts (if you know what you're doing), which is the best time to take insulin. So by having all of the free IGF-1 bound by IGFBP3s' evil siblings, much of the anabolic effect of insulin is lost! Since T3 (triiodothyronine) is the main culprit, does that mean that T4 (tetraiodothyronine) can be used with no detrimental effect? NO, because T4 is mostly effective by converting to T3, which leaves you with the same problem. In fact, T4 could very well do the same thing. So if you want to maximize the anabolic effectiveness of insulin while minimizing bodyfat accumulation, use another fat burner and leave the thyroid alone.

@Vibrant
I don't get bloated on Dbol when I'm using AI along.

@Victor
6'1, 200lb, fairly lean (don't want to guess bf%).

I used Insulin before, no problems.


Reading basskiller's article that cottonmouth posted I would change it like this:

1-4 Test P 100mg EOD
1-5 Dbol 50mg ED
1-12 Test E 750mg EW
1-9 Tren E 400mg EW

1-4 Insulin 10IU 4xW
1-4 ECA 20/200/100mg 2xED
5-8 T3 50mcg
5-7 Clenbuterol 80mcg ED
6-7 Ketotifen 2mg


Diet would be perfect with 0 cheat meals, very high protein, carb cycling and some EFAs.

How would you do it, if you are doing it for yourself using included compounds?