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    Suggestions.....First Go...

    Want to run a cycle but honestly don't know where to start. I feel I have developed a good foundation to work with. I know there are a lot of people on here who know what they are doing and am just looking for some advice: what, when, how much, and best options for the first time to get the best results. I know every"body's" different. see what I did there. But I'm just curious what I would benefit the most from.

    1) Age: 25
    2) Weight and Percent BodyFat: 180/ 8% BF
    3) Years of Consistant Training experience: 6 yrs.
    4) Previous Cycle experience: None
    5) Training routine and Diet: Been doing a standard 4 day split as follows

    Mon-Back/Bi's
    Tues-rest
    Wed-Legs/Shoulders
    Thur-Cardio/Abs
    Fri-Chest/Tris
    Sat-rest
    Sun-rest
    Been working heavy sets, 6-8 reps about 4 sets of each exercise.
    about 9-12 sets per muscle group.

    Diet: currently around a 40/40/20 split. Around 3000-3500 cal. a day. I know I am going to need to adjust accordingly any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...I am just off a pretty relaxed cut was basically to see what I have built from my last bulk.

    6) Cycle Goals- Hoping to gain about 15-20lbs. Strength and size mostly. I will post a link to an album, let me know if you think I will benefit from running a cycle.

    http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/me...albums437.html

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    You have a good base to start with. You look like youre around 15%. I only say that because people usually guess about 5-6% lower than they really are. 8% is crazy ripped. You are definitely pretty lean though.

    For a first cycle, go with your standard 12 weeker of test. I would say 500mg for the first 8 weeks, then bump it up to 750 for the last 4 weeks. Start with Arimidex at .5mg eod, and adjust from there. A basic cycle would look like this:

    Test E 500mg weeks 1-8
    Test E 750mg weeks 9-12
    Arimidex 1mg eod all the way through(adjust as needed)

    PCT:
    Clomid 100mg ED week 1
    Clomid 50mg ED weeks 2-4
    Aromasin 25mg ED week 1
    Aromasin 12.5mg ED weeks 2-4

    You could also throw Dbol in there at 50mg ED for weeks 1-4, while you wait for the test to kick in. Thats at your discretion.

    Once you have the first one under your belt, you can take the appropriate time off, and start planning the next one. I personally think that for a second cycle, you could get good results with the same layout as this one, but just throw Deca in there. Welcome to the Dark Side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenj View Post
    You have a good base to start with. You look like youre around 15%. I only say that because people usually guess about 5-6% lower than they really are. 8% is crazy ripped. You are definitely pretty lean though.

    For a first cycle, go with your standard 12 weeker of test. I would say 500mg for the first 8 weeks, then bump it up to 750 for the last 4 weeks. Start with Arimidex at .5mg eod, and adjust from there. A basic cycle would look like this:

    Test E 500mg weeks 1-8
    Test E 750mg weeks 9-12
    Arimidex 1mg eod all the way through(adjust as needed)

    PCT:
    Clomid 100mg ED week 1
    Clomid 50mg ED weeks 2-4
    Aromasin 25mg ED week 1
    Aromasin 12.5mg ED weeks 2-4

    You could also throw Dbol in there at 50mg ED for weeks 1-4, while you wait for the test to kick in. Thats at your discretion.

    Once you have the first one under your belt, you can take the appropriate time off, and start planning the next one. I personally think that for a second cycle, you could get good results with the same layout as this one, but just throw Deca in there. Welcome to the Dark Side.
    haha thx man....how much you think it will run total with the PCT, Dbol, and cycle posted?

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    I didnt want to post up that link because I feel like its too played out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShreddedOatz View Post
    haha thx man....how much you think it will run total with the PCT, Dbol, and cycle posted?
    We dont do any price talk on the main board. You can PM me if you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenj View Post
    We dont do any price talk on the main board. You can PM me if you like.
    Copy that! Im gonna have to post more so I can PM....fuuuuk

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbenj View Post
    I didnt want to post up that link because I feel like its too played out.
    Lol, it outlines everything perfectly, why fuck with that?
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