Thread: Another first Cycle - powerful + secure

I dont think its smart to run deca higher than test bro. Your wife wont be happy

I think your first cycle plan looks better.
Thats a pretty basic and safe plan for a first cycle. %00mgs test E per wk for 10-12 wks.
Actually your idea on the 200mgs deca wouldnt show much results.
Most people dont see much results from deca unless they go up to around 600mgs.
Besides there are other concerns with deca. For example do you know about progesterone? When taking deca it's always wise to take cabergoline at what most use .5mgs 2x wkly.
Another thing to think about is I dont think nolvadex would be your best choice for any PCT.
I would drop it and use clomid and as you planned along with the aromasin.
Many would think a good PCT for your basic test cycle should be something like.
Clomid 4 wks@ 100, 75, 50, 50.
Aromasin 4 wks @ 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5.
You also may need to study on HCG and my thoughts are you should use it on cycle starting your second week of test @ 500iu's 2 x wkly.
It's nice you are asking for suggestions and I know you want to be safe but study all these things out carefully and plan it all out on paper down to the last detail and plan to have extra of everything just in case.
Oh....One more thing. Keep that nolvadex on hand just in case you have any gyno symptoms during your test cycle but do not do nolvadex if you plan to do the deca run.

Originally Posted by Roaddkingg

I think your first cycle plan looks better.
Thats a pretty basic and safe plan for a first cycle. %00mgs test E per wk for 10-12 wks.
Actually your idea on the 200mgs deca wouldnt show much results.
Most people dont see much results from deca unless they go up to around 600mgs.
Besides there are other concerns with deca. For example do you know about progesterone? When taking deca it's always wise to take cabergoline at what most use .5mgs 2x wkly.
Another thing to think about is I dont think nolvadex would be your best choice for any PCT.
I would drop it and use clomid and as you planned along with the aromasin.
Many would think a good PCT for your basic test cycle should be something like.
Clomid 4 wks@ 100, 75, 50, 50.
Aromasin 4 wks @ 25, 25, 12.5, 12.5.
You also may need to study on HCG and my thoughts are you should use it on cycle starting your second week of test @ 500iu's 2 x wkly.
It's nice you are asking for suggestions and I know you want to be safe but study all these things out carefully and plan it all out on paper down to the last detail and plan to have extra of everything just in case.
Oh....One more thing. Keep that nolvadex on hand just in case you have any gyno symptoms during your test cycle but do not do nolvadex if you plan to do the deca run.

Very thanks for your suggestion! About PCT I think that nolvaldex is more better than Clomid... in this article there is the reason... I quote a part of it:

But what about Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)?

I think at this point most people are sold on the use of Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) instead of Clomid for post cycle therapy (PCT), since both compete estrogen at the receptor site, both increase serum test levels, and both drugs may also alter blood lipid profiles favorably (6). But since 20mgs of Tamoxifen is equal to 150mgs of clomid for purposes of testosterone elevation, FSH and LH, but Tamoxifen doesn’t decrease the LH response to LHRH (6) I think most people agree to Nolvadex’s superiority for PCT.

About HCG, I should study it better...

Click on this link bro

First Cycle and PCT