Thread: Comeback Cycle

That looks to me like a lot of gear. Will your current body build be able to use all of the gear? If not then you will just be wasting a lot of your gear and money. Otherwise if you think your body will be able to use all of it then it looks like a good cycle to me. But why only 40mg of dbol ED why not just go with 50 ED.

Thanks for the input. I've been going back and forth on that. I've lost so much in such a short amount of time that the greedy SOB inside me has that 'just throw as much gear and food as possible at it and hope for the best' mentality. I know it's a process. If I drop anything it will probably be the EQ. I might go 50 with the dbol I've just only run it at 40 in the past.

50 works like a charm. why not just start out slow and see how the gains are coming along. Why not start out the first 5 wks something like this 400 test, 400 eq, and 50 dbol then take it from there. Who knows you may make great progress and be happy there. If not no big deal just dial it up a bit say 500 test 500 eq and drop the dbol. I am sure you get my point but I was the same as you and took the advice of a friend on here and dropped the mgs down and did 3 different compounds and I am very happy with the progress, and I still have a lot more gear left over for next time. remember slow and steady wins the race your body can only (Grow) muscle so fast the rest is water and who the hell wants to carry a bunch of water around just to loose it when you come off. I started with dbol 50 Ed test cyp 300 eq 400 tren hex 300 for my first 5 wks then adjusted it to test 300 eq 400 and tren hex 400 till wk 10. Then I will drop the tren completely and go with 500 test 600 eq for the last 10 wks.

I like the idea of finishing off with Tren Ace, though I've never done it. I recommend 50mg-75 Tren A ED if you don't mind the pinning. I used to pin short esters EOD, but after reaping the benefits of ED pinning I will never go back to EOD especially with tren A. Everything seems to be more consistent and the sides aren't near as bad with ED pinning.

It does seem like alot of gear, but I know you have a couple cycles under your belt so I trust you know how your body responds to the compounds at different dosages.

You will most likely be shut down pretty hard even with the HCG, especially depending on how you react to the Tren. Therefore, you MAY need to extend your PCT out to 6 or 8 weeks. PCT is something that I usually take by feel and bloodwork. More often than not, I find myself extending my PCT a couple weeks. As long as you have plenty of PCT meds on hand you're G2G.

Looks like a fun cycle. Best of luck.

Just ordered the meat and potatoes of this thing. God damn that was a nice chunk of change. Money well spent though.

5 vials Test E
4 vials EQ
200 tabs GP Dbol
40 tabs GP exemestane


next order is gonna be for a few vials of tren A, HCG, some more exemestane, and rigs - I intentionally didn't order those this go round so I wouldn't be tempted to start early. Fuck I'm pumped.

Gonna go with 750 test, 400 eq, and 50 mg dbol to start. I might end up bumping the eq to 500 and/or 600 and buying another vial or 2 but I'll start with 400 for the first 6 weeks or so and decide when i drop the dbol. Can't wait to experience tren. Does 50 mg ED or 100 EOD seem like a good dose for a first time? I don't want to waste my time and money, but I don't want to experience any more sides than I have to.

Originally Posted by Diesel618

Just ordered the meat and potatoes of this thing. God damn that was a nice chunk of change. Money well spent though.

5 vials Test E
4 vials EQ
200 tabs GP Dbol
40 tabs GP exemestane


next order is gonna be for a few vials of tren A, HCG, some more exemestane, and rigs - I intentionally didn't order those this go round so I wouldn't be tempted to start early. Fuck I'm pumped.

Gonna go with 750 test, 400 eq, and 50 mg dbol to start. I might end up bumping the eq to 500 and/or 600 and buying another vial or 2 but I'll start with 400 for the first 6 weeks or so and decide when i drop the dbol. Can't wait to experience tren. Does 50 mg ED or 100 EOD seem like a good dose for a first time? I don't want to waste my time and money, but I don't want to experience any more sides than I have to.

Some experience less sides with ED pinning of tren but since you haven't experienced it yet it's really your call to make. I will tell you that, at least in my case, pinning ED gets tough. I only have 4 spots to rotate with. Keep things like that in mind.

My first run with tren A.
ED with 50mgs has worked well with me. Experienced night sweats, some restless nights but the past 5-6 days it's subsided.
Only change I made was removing carbs from dinner.
I'm also more short tempered. Just not reacting to it.

Originally Posted by Diesel618

Just ordered the meat and potatoes of this thing. God damn that was a nice chunk of change. Money well spent though.

5 vials Test E

I think 5 vials of test e will not last 20 weeks. you need to recalculate. are you planning to run any ai's during your cycle?

I'm not trying to be a dick at all. You mentioned you have substance abuse problems? Why are you rushing into a cycle after all that?

Originally Posted by boss

I'm not trying to be a dick at all. You mentioned you have substance abuse problems? Why are you rushing into a cycle after all that?

I had the same thought. You just got out. Give yourself months, a year maybe, see how things go. I am not trying to be a jerk - just looking out for you.

Originally Posted by SUPERFLY1234

I think 5 vials of test e will not last 20 weeks. you need to recalculate. are you planning to run any ai's during your cycle?

good call. I'm gonna need 2 more vials of test..forgot to mention that in my second order.

As far as the addiction thing goes, I really appreciate your guys' concerns and taking the time to give me a valid opinion. I don't really put AAS and heroin in the same category, but I can def see the abuse potential of gear. However, the past two cycles I've run, using has been the last thing on my mind. I have a good support system in place and a great sponsor who understands bodybuilding and the lifestyle it entails. I am going to go ahead with it but I genuinely do appreciate your guys' concerns.

And I just picked up my 9 month keytag so I'm not FRESH out of rehab, but relapse is always a realistic concern. I will be working my program very hard throughout and beyond the cycle. Looking forward to it. Still making very quick gains off muscle memory, so I won't start this until those stagnate, maybe a month, maybe 3. We'll see.

congrats diesel well done

Congrulations Diesel on your recovery, wish you the best going forward brotha.
Having the Mental strength and focusing on your goals will lead to you great places.

Congrat on getting clean. That is a great thing. You will be able to focus much more on training and eating properly now that you are clean. Using AAS makes me want to focus more on being healthy when I use them. Your cycle looks good. I always try to use as little as possible to reach my goal. This way you will get great results, have more room to go up in dose if need be, and experience as little sides as possible. Wish you the best with staying clean. Your overall health is the most important thing right now. Make sure you stay focused on your goals. Keep us posted when you start.

The cycle is too long and too heavy. You could screw up your natural production for life with such a long and heavy cycle.

Also, seeing as you just got out and lost a lot while in because of lack of training, you have plenty of natural gains to get back in the next 3 months. You'll see a huge amount of progress without gear.

I advise against it, for you.

watch your BP and red cells. equipoise is notorious for sending them high especially on long runs and extra-especially if you are older.