Decadrol for first cycle
21 years of age as of last november
6'2" 181 at 6:00 am this morning
BMI says I'm anywhere from 15 to 20% body fat
I have been lurking this site every chance I get and have learned a lot about AAS I have been into working out since 16 and have had a solid Mon. Wed. Fri routine for 6 months now I want that extra edge
Has anyone done Decadrol max for there first cycle? I like it number 1 because its oral and because its Non-methylated and Non-aromatizing if I run ans AI I will probly go with formerone from black lion research. also I plan to run the stack they provide including anabolic matrix e control cycle support etc.
so my questions are
1. is this to crazy for my first cycle
2. should I run an AI (I hear mixed reviews)
3.is there anything I'm forgetting or tips you guys have?
if it doesn't aromatize I see no need for an AI, you are young, but I will spare you that as I wasn't far off your age either. I will also spare you the "you need test in every cycle" speech as you've probably heard it (though I agree wholeheartedly fyi).
I don't think that's too crazy a cycle, definitely use a SERM like clomid or nolva for pct though. I think you'd be happier running 500mg test for 10 weeks but alas I'm sure I won't be able to convince you, even if I tell you how ridiculous your sex drive will be and how awesome you'll feel, a 21 year old guy wouldn't care about that at all right ;)
I don't know much about methadrol but for the most part non-methylated orals are not the strongest. Many may disagree but IMO if you're going to shut yourself down anyway make sure the gains are worth it. If you must run an oral I'd say superdmz/methadrol/dbol+AI would be better but that's up to you to decide.
well I really wanted to try super dmz but the lethargy scared me away plus I felt it was a little much for my first cycle. The only thing that scares me about the test is the injections haha I could have someone else do it no prob, but me doing it on myself, plus getting clean needles etc. I was under the influence That IML anabolic matrix made up for the test If you have never heard of it(you probly have being a member on this forum hahaha)IronMagLabs Bodybuilding Supplements & Prohormones: Anabolic-Matrix Rx
and I was going to use e control as my PCT. Are those two supplements not Ideal for what I am using them for? would I be better off with test and clomid? And I am open to suggestions
I think that you are on the right track bud!
Originally Posted by aaronsoccer4
Dont listen to this dude trying to push gear on you. (im not saying hes an idiot but...)
That's a decision to be made by you and you only.
If you want to take the decadrol then go right ahead and do it.
use clomid for pct the day after the last pill (front load and ramp down. you can find that schedule somewhere on here im sure of it)
If you want to take anabolic matrix go ahead!
if you want to use econtrol with the clomids go right ahead.
You seem like a bright kid. just keep doing research and dont waste a single day on your cycle because you cant get those days back lol.
hope this was helpful!
Originally Posted by sendit08
No offense taken bro, but either way he's still using "gear" I'm just trying to push a "safer" alternative on him lol.
I would definitely not rely on any over the counter supplements for pct though, ironmag makes great products but I do not believe any cycle is mild enough not to require a SERM. You can get clomid easily, and you may very well regret it if you don't, that's all I'm saying.
As far as injections, I'm sure I won't be the first or last to say they're very easy. If that's the only thing you're worried about I'd personally reccomend jut sucking it up and doing it, once the first one's done I guarantee you'll realize it wasn't a big deal.
Anyway back to your situation, you most definitely can just run the decadrol and then clomid for pct. Anything else you add is up to you and can probably only help. I think you'd be fine with superdmz, the lethargy might be an issue towards the end but it's only 4 weeks. Same with sex drive, both of these things can be helped by test though I'm sure you know :P I don't think it's a bad idea just to get your feet wet with something mild, but I think looking back you'll wish you went with something a little stronger is all.
We were all in the same situation as you one day. Suck it up and get some test. Pinning is easy even if you have to do it yourself. I agree with Digitalash, your gonna wish you ran some test.....trust me. Nothing wrong with orals but test is king:winkfinger:. Good luck with whatever you decide bro.
would it be safe to run SDMZ with test, for PCT Ill use clomid and use cycle support al the way through and maybe liv52. just some thoughts running through my head. injections mostly deterred me because the hassle of finding needles, and having to explain if anyone ever stumbled upon them I just have to do some research on it before I start pumping it in my veins.
anyone have any writeups on test or peptides I did a quick search, I would really like to learn about this stuff
Yes you definitely could run dmz the first 3-4 weeks of a test cycle. Go back a page to the anabolic zone and look at the sticky's at the top, "first cycle and pct" is a very good place to start and should tell you everything you need to setup a basic test cycle.