Cruising and blasting idea

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 04:11 PM

Im a TRT patient doing a cruise/blast. When I started TRT I began cruising at around 200mg of test cyp/week. Finally started a 14 week blast of test/dbol/proviron. I have 2 weeks left. My problem is that I messed up my shoulder a bit, I think it’s a small rotator cuff injury. i get pain in my right REAR delt area doing bench and a few other random movements. I'm not bench pressing this week

. Anyway im going to do another small blast this coming summer but my cruise starts back in two weeks.

MY question:
After doing some research I learned that high doses of testosterone does something to inhibit the strengthening of your ligaments and joints while cycling or blasting. I think it has to do with collagen. Anyway, when I reduce my weekly dosage of cyp to 200mg/week, can I also cruise with a low dose of deca to help boost collagen production and help my ligaments strengthen up? I was thinking 200mg, maybe even less, a week. Will I experience deca dick with that?

PS, with that low dose of deca, will I experience any performance enhancement in the gym?

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 04:57 PM

ok screw it. i just injected 375mg of deca to add to the 3 weeks i have left in my blast. In three weeks ill drop the deca down to about 100mg/week and the cyp to 200mg/week. then ill keep that going till around late june and jump back into a blast.

This is my first time using deca, im honestly using for therapeutic purposes but will i notice any positive physical changes in my body during the cruise?

**aminoman74** · 02-14-2012, 05:05 PM

Lr3 and tb-500 are great for injuries.Try these both out you will be surprised.They both are great for soft tissue rejuvenation.

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 05:15 PM

dam, whats all this im reading about prolactin side effects from deca. im starting to regret that injection 5 mins ago. im mostly worried about libido. when i start my cruise at 200mg/week of test cyp and 100mg/week of deca will i have any problems?

**littlekev** · 02-14-2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

ok screw it. i just injected 375mg of deca to add to the 3 weeks i have left in my blast. In three weeks ill drop the deca down to about 100mg/week and the cyp to 200mg/week. then ill keep that going till around late june and jump back into a blast.

This is my first time using deca, im honestly using for therapeutic purposes but will i notice any positive physical changes in my body during the cruise?

Some guys use deca in light doses on cruises, i personally do not, but i do on occasion do a joint healing cruise (my term) its 200mg test e, 200 mg eq, mod grf and ipam. So to answer your question yes you can cruise on light doses of deca. I wouldnt blast deca for 3 weeks though, thats pointless. I would just use it in light doses for your duration of the cruise prob 200mg wk. As always BLOOD WORK, be safe

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by aminoman74

Lr3 and tb-500 are great for injuries.Try these both out you will be surprised.They both are great for soft tissue rejuvenation.

looking into tb-500. i love what im reading. is it something that goes will with a cruise and even a blast? how toxic is it? what does it do it libido?

**Glycomann** · 02-14-2012, 05:20 PM

I have the same problems with shoulders and am a bit older than you probably. GHRP-2 helped a lot. Best thing that helps believe it or not is go off everything for a while and let the normal physiology figure it out. not possible for you since you are on TRT. Maybe drop to 200 mg and add in GHRP-2 once at night. That's what I've been doing ( bar the test) for about a year and a half and my joints are better than they have been in years.

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

looking into tb-500. i love what im reading. is it something that goes will with a cruise and even a blast? how toxic is it? what does it do it libido?

To add, im about to buy some tb-500 but the peptide source says to buy it with sterile water for reconstitution. what does that mean?

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Glycomann

I have the same problems with shoulders and am a bit older than you probably. GHRP-2 helped a lot. Best thing that helps believe it or not is go off everything for a while and let the normal physiology figure it out. not possible for you since you are on TRT. Maybe drop to 200 mg and add in GHRP-2 once at night. That's what I've been doing ( bar the test) for about a year and a half and my joints are better than they have been in years.

drop the 200mg of test that i am prescribed? not sure what you mean. im very new to these research peptides and growth hormones. ive only had experience with basic steroids, testosterone/dbol/proviron. i do understand there are some wonders being done with all these new substances out there but i haven't had time to do all the research.

overall, i want to keep my mass, strengthen my joints and shoulder back up and keep my libido healthy.

**Hell** · 02-14-2012, 05:41 PM

100-150mg of Deca a week works wonders!! Keep ur TRT dose and ull be great!

**SloppyJ** · 02-14-2012, 06:02 PM

Dude I had that same pain from OHP. I couldn't move my neck for like a week. Went to the doc and got some meds and had to take a couple weeks off. Be careful.

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

To add, im about to buy some tb-500 but the peptide source says to buy it with sterile water for reconstitution. what does that mean?

ok after more reading i understand that the sterile water is the water used to shoot into the vial of peptide powder. is tb-500 good to use as a TRT patient who blasts/cruises testosterone cyp?

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 06:14 PM

dam, the more i read about tb500 the more i want it. i think im about to order a bunch of 10mg vials.

**oufinny** · 02-14-2012, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

To add, im about to buy some tb-500 but the peptide source says to buy it with sterile water for reconstitution. what does that mean?

It is a dry powder, you have to reconstitute it for injection. I can walk you through it if you like, PM me.

**Junkboxer** · 02-14-2012, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by oufinny

It is a dry powder, you have to reconstitute it for injection. I can walk you through it if you like, PM me.

Thanks, im ordering(6) 5mg bottles of tb-500 along with a big 50ml bottle or sterile water. i'll definitely shoot you a PM when i get it in the mail.

**Junkboxer** · 02-15-2012, 09:33 AM

i heard the 10mg bottles arent that good unless injecting all at once. something to do with the very short shelf life of tb-500 once mixed with sterile water.

btw, what kinda syringes should i use for tb-500? the shortest pins i have are 3/4 inch 25g with 3ml syringes, is that small enough?

**krolly** · 02-15-2012, 12:21 PM

Good info on blast and cruise here - Blasting and Cruising Protocols......

**Glycomann** · 02-17-2012, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Junkboxer

drop the 200mg of test that i am prescribed? not sure what you mean. im very new to these research peptides and growth hormones. ive only had experience with basic steroids, testosterone/dbol/proviron. i do understand there are some wonders being done with all these new substances out there but i haven't had time to do all the research.

overall, i want to keep my mass, strengthen my joints and shoulder back up and keep my libido healthy.

reread my post. I didn't tell you to go off your TRT. I said I go off all test, and all other androgens for that matter, when trying to heal up good. You can't that's why I said drop it to 200 mg. For me I have to let the body find itself again. Then everything heals up. I've gone off for 6 months or more at a time over the 25 years I've been playing this game. Going completely off always was the best answer when you're feeling real busted up after being on a long while. I still recover so I can get away with it. I would guess if you get your test into normal range same kind of thing would happen for you. BTW 200 mg/w is going to get you a little over the top of normal. 150 mg/w test C gets me to the top of normal range with an AI. The human body figured out how to heal itself 60,000 years ago and has been ding a great job since. Sometimes it's best to leave it to the expert.

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