Thread: Orals at back end of cycle

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Love to hear what some of the vets say bout this...

I've heard both, run through the last two weeks the test is clearing your system to also stop running the oral with the last shot of the test e.

hmmm this sounds kind of sketch. Where did you discover this "rule"?

What's the oral your considering?

Probably winny or epistane.

I like an oral during the two weeks that the esters are clearing. thats what I did during a cycle I just finished. I did sdmz.

Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1

hmmm this sounds kind of sketch. Where did you discover this "rule"?

When running a long ester it's well known to wait 2 weeks after last shot to start pct, this isn't the case if you're running prop or something of that nature.

Orals have a very short half life and have no impact on the clearing rate of esterified testosterone so i see no reason you can not run them right up until the day before you plan to start pct.

On a 12 week cycle I would add it in starting at the beginning of week 9.. so 9, 10, 11, 12 and then stop it in the last week a couple days after the last injection. It will help you through the 8 week plateau.

Originally Posted by Vibrant

I like an oral during the two weeks that the esters are clearing. thats what I did during a cycle I just finished. I did sdmz.

this is exactly what I am doing too.

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

I like doing orals or short esters front and rear.
If I was to do a oral in the tail end I'd run it up to about two days before I planned to start PCT.
As was stated this would give you that extra bump on the tail end and say for instance you were doing d-bol that has a half life of 4-6 hours so it all would have easily been cleared to begin PCT.
I will be doing a cycle very similiar to that soon myself.
Front gives you the fast start and in the rear keeps you going while esters clear.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

Good feedback, after this cycle I feel I'm done with orals all together though.

I think there are injectables that can deliver the results desired from any oral with out the toxicity. And I love pinning

Originally Posted by PITBULL915

Good feedback, after this cycle I feel I'm done with orals all together though.

I think there are injectables that can deliver the results desired from any oral with out the toxicity. And I love pinning

toxicity is greatly exaggerated. I only use winstrol and drol during cutting because they help spare muscle as those caloric deficits deepen

Very true pitbull.
We have prop, suspension, NPP, TNE and others.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

^^^^I like this here....and since you don't mind pinning consider test P for your first 3-4 wks as this would be a nice kick out of the gates as well.

Originally Posted by PITBULL915

After last shot of test e the rule is generally wait about two weeks before starting pct. If you're adding an oral at the back end of a cycle would you end it with the last day of test e or run it through those two weeks the test e is clearing the system?

I ALWAYS do...

If a bulk, I'll use dbol. If a cut, I'll use Beastdrol.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

This is what im doing. Starting off with dbol kick start of a test e cycle for 12wks, on 10-14 going off with tbol or superdrol by IML.