Thread: mast/tren/prop transformation time?

I just finished this similar cycle, although I ran a little higher dose at the end (10 weeks) IMO 4 weeks is about when I noticed big changes happening. I like to give my compounds a full 8weeks to get the max results, then maybe switch to the NPP and a longer ester test. This cycle seemed hard on my joints and so I started a low dose Deca with my cruise for some relief. I would run the tren as long as you can tolerate it for max results.

Originally Posted by tommygunz

I just finished this similar cycle, although I ran a little higher dose at the end (10 weeks) IMO 4 weeks is about when I noticed big changes happening. I like to give my compounds a full 8weeks to get the max results, then maybe switch to the NPP and a longer ester test. This cycle seemed hard on my joints and so I started a low dose Deca with my cruise for some relief. I would run the tren as long as you can tolerate it for max results.

thanks tommy. should i add a low dose of npp with my trenmastprop to relieve joints to begin with or is that overkill? i am very prone to dry/painful joints from ai's alone

Originally Posted by PappyMason

how many weeks till you guys usually notice a significant difference in your physique?

I am planning 100/50/50 everyday prop/mast/tren a for my next cycle. possible transition from tren to npp if the transformation occurs in a 4 week time frame (8 week total cycle)

None of it is going to work unless your diet and cardio are spot on. It's impossible to answer your question.

Originally Posted by PappyMason

thanks tommy. should i add a low dose of npp with my trenmastprop to relieve joints to begin with or is that overkill? i am very prone to dry/painful joints from ai's alone

That's a strong stack I'd hold off on the NPP, some schools of thought say never run 2 19 nors together some say it's ok, I just don't do it. I would rather run the NPP a little heavy post tren. Everyone is different.
XYZ is correct, the more dialed in your diet & cardio is the better results you'll see. 4 weeks is my sweet spot for very visible changes.

Originally Posted by XYZ

None of it is going to work unless your diet and cardio are spot on. It's impossible to answer your question.

actually i get lean as fuck with h drol, decent diet and no cardio. i'm hoping mast/tren/prop will at least be as effective as a prohormone

Originally Posted by tommygunz

That's a strong stack I'd hold off on the NPP, some schools of thought say never run 2 19 nors together some say it's ok, I just don't do it. I would rather run the NPP a little heavy post tren. Everyone is different.
XYZ is correct, the more dialed in your diet & cardio is the better results you'll see. 4 weeks is my sweet spot for very visible changes.

sounds good thanks. i will definitely have a diet dialed in while on cycle.

Originally Posted by PappyMason

sounds good thanks. I will definitely have a diet dialed in while on cycle.

I can honestly tell you this bro; if you're not already at 12% BF or below then you wont see a fuckin thing with the masteron! That shit works great but only on people who are already leaned out well.

I would NOT recomment you run the NPP and tren together! If you did you would need a shit-ton of prami to help with the sides and boost the libido but then you would feel sick as fuck too sometimes.

I have to take my prami at night otherwise my stomach starts churning and feel sick.

Originally Posted by Sterolized

I can honestly tell you this bro; if you're not already at 12% BF or below then you wont see a fuckin thing with the masteron! That shit works great but only on people who are already leaned out well.

I would NOT recomment you run the NPP and tren together! If you did you would need a shit-ton of prami to help with the sides and boost the libido but then you would feel sick as fuck too sometimes.

I have to take my prami at night otherwise my stomach starts churning and feel sick.

I understand that. i get to 10% pretty easily on a cut and stay on 13-15% when i'm bulking. i do plan on cutting a little bit before i start this cycle (in a couple months) but i'm just getting a little more size on right now first. and i will take your advice about the npp and tren. thanks

Diet clen and t3 are key here, I would use

Test Prop at 50ed Tren ace at 75ed and Mast @ 100 ed

by week 3 every morning you wake up you will look different day by day

I LOVE Mast/Prop/Tren for recomping. Its practically magic when your diet is dialed in.

6-8 weeks of dieting and training and you won't recognize the person in the mirror.

I prefer the NPP up front in the cycle and the Tren at the end myself.

Originally Posted by OldSchoolLifter

Diet clen and t3 are key here, I would use

Test Prop at 50ed Tren ace at 75ed and Mast @ 100 ed

by week 3 every morning you wake up you will look different day by day

So i should stak clen and t3 while on that combination?

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I LOVE Mast/Prop/Tren for recomping. Its practically magic when your diet is dialed in.

6-8 weeks of dieting and training and you won't recognize the person in the mirror.

I prefer the NPP up front in the cycle and the Tren at the end myself.

Lol i cant wait now. How long do you run the npp on the front end?

I have done both, I just find NPP on the end for 4 weeks helps my joints recover. Tren is tough on me but I love it. Heavy what's your take on running it up front?