lol, already planning. You sound like me.
Just watch that estrogen on 50 mg of dbol. I would need more adex than that.
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MIB - didn't you have some gyno on your last cycle? Maybe up the dex to ED. Also might consider caber with the tren.
Sorry PCT isn't going well. What'd you decide on the diet?
Hey bro, man I had a small lump that was pretty suspect last cycle but I knocked it out real quick with some nolva...yeah youre right, id probly be better upping the adex to 1mg EOD so ill start with that.
You mentioned using caber since I am running Tren..i actually have that included in the cycle up there bro. see what you think about my dose and get back to me.
My diet, for now, im sticking with what i posted in the diet section but of course the diet will change when i hit up this new cycle!! cant wait
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Hey bro just a thought but maybe save the tren for a cut cycle? Possibly run something like test/EQ with dbol or prop kickstart, nice low stress cycle and you'll make steady gains if diet's on point. Once you're at a weight you're happy with then get serious about cutting and use the tren ?
Yeah it should be run for a while but alot of guys like it for bulking, takes a while to kick in but at the right dose it can be very beneficial and without the bloat of adding more test. Also helps with collagen synthesis and very minimal side effects. Tren can definitely be used to cut or bulk but it's ability to spare or even gain muscle while dieting and the fat loss effects make it more suited to a cut/recomp IMO. If you do cut you know you're gonna want to run tren, save the stress for then lol
I like the way you have this laid out. I would take it slow on the adex, looks like a great place to start. You can always dial it up later if need be. With tren I had to do my HCG MWF and it was 500 iu's per shot. that is just me but I started out lower and had to keep increasing it to this point. Could not believe how hard the tren was on my nutz.
Run high test prop and a strong oral for 6 weeks while stuffing your face, drop in tren + lower your test and switch to a recomp diet. Put on some nice weight and come out lean on the other side. Profit?
Edit: Something like this
wks. 1-4 dbol/drol/superdrol - SD clones are still floating around and the shit works great, no water retention and you'll probably even recomp, very very anabolic and good strength gains to boot. Super cheap also like $20-30
wks 1-6 100mg test prop ED, bulking diet
50mg prop ED and 50-75mg tren ace ED, cut/recomp diet with some cardio
caber of course, AI of your choice don't need to get into that lol, pct etc.
Last edited by Digitalash; 04-19-2012 at 04:31 PM.
I've had major shoulder issues for the last 6+ months so have only been able to train legs and keep up with cardio etc., having had tons of time to plan my next cycle when I'm back I'm leaning towards something similar. I cruise and I definitely think being on too long diminishes your results so I want to divide it into two parts with a 6 week cruise in between. Other than that it'll be one part bulk and one part recomp
Here's a rough outline of what I'm thinking
1-8 100mg prop + 100mg NPP EOD I will be continuing my once weekly 250mg test E shot also, moderate bulking diet
6week cruise @ 250mg
prop/tren, I'm gonna try both higher and lower test and if it helps and sides aren't too bad I'd like to keep the test to a minimum and possibly run up to 100mg tren A ED. Apparently that's not as uncommon as it sounds and alot of bros can get away with it as long as their test dosage is low. Small caloric surplus, fingers crossed I can gain some more weight back and drop a little bf % at the same time
22 week cycle with two 19-nors??? Another upside of cruising :P
Last edited by Digitalash; 04-19-2012 at 04:43 PM.
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