Thread: Coming back from the darkside

This should help....

Originally Posted by ~RaZr~

This should help....

this about sums it up

I went off for like 8 years once. I was fat at the end and had low T.

^lol

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I went off for like 8 years once. I was fat at the end and had low T.

do you think the low t was from the gear tho?

Originally Posted by jimm

do you think the low t was from the gear tho?

Not sure, I was in my very late 30's when I was tested for low T. May have been age related or a combination.

im going on self prescribed HRT the second I spit out a kid(s). Soon hopefully

I don't think i could go natty again.But someday i might think different.

Originally Posted by jimm

Like 90% of steroid users on here i took steroids way before i should.. before i barely built a foundation lat alone reached my natty max potenial..

just wondering if any of you here have taken the juice then decided to go natty?

how did it work out?

am i doomed to a eternity of beeing a gear abusing (massive shredded) tren loving maniac or...

many people have stopped steroids after years of abuse.....it is never too late....i guess it will feel bad for a while but it is mainly a psychological barrier that could be crossed.

Originally Posted by ~RaZr~

This should help....

Where did you get that? Is that real? Before and after? Twins? The one on the left is taller.

On T-Nation....

Originally Posted by TwisT

im going on self prescribed HRT the second I spit out a kid(s). Soon hopefully

Thats what did, I have one kid now and started hrt at 29 if I have one more while on thats fine too. But like I said I already got one kid and never wanted more than two anyway. That was one reason I was always a little scared about staying on was not being able to have a child if I wanted one, its nice to have a choice.

Originally Posted by ~RaZr~

This should help....

obviously two different persons....

Originally Posted by ~RaZr~

This should help....

That right there? THAT is some effective "Do Roidz" advertising!

Blessed, not doomed.

Originally Posted by ~RaZr~

This should help....

I don't understand op question?lol.

Originally Posted by bjg

obviously two different persons....

It's the same guy after 3 months of taking dat der Celltech


/Not srs

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Not sure, I was in my very late 30's when I was tested for low T. May have been age related or a combination.

ok mate, what age did you start and did you cruise for long periods of time? if you did how many years did u cycle for befrore crusing?.

Originally Posted by jshel12

Thats what did, I have one kid now and started hrt at 29 if I have one more while on thats fine too. But like I said I already got one kid and never wanted more than two anyway. That was one reason I was always a little scared about staying on was not being able to have a child if I wanted one, its nice to have a choice.

yes not beeing able to have a kid scares me aswell...


it would be devastating to be told your unable to have kids due to the use of steroids..

Originally Posted by jimm

ok mate, what age did you start and did you cruise for long periods of time? if you did how many years did u cycle for befrore crusing?.

I started my first cycle at age 20. I used heavily for about 3 years off and on then took about 6 years off. Then another about 3 year on and off run with about 8 years off after that. No PCT at all those years of use.

Went on HRT right before I turned 40. I fathered a child a few years ago while on.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

I started my first cycle at age 20. I used heavily for about 3 years off and on then took about 6 years off. Then another about 3 year on and off run with about 8 years off after that. No PCT at all those years of use.

Went on HRT right before I turned 40. I fathered a child a few years ago while on.

Thanks for your honesty mate. No pct atall thats pretty nuts...



congratulation on fathering a kid. reasuring to know it is possible especially whilse beeing on


one more thing did you ever compete or just bodybuild for the love of it?

I was on for about a decade.
Truth be told I have never run a PCT either. Not once.
Obviously Im on hrt.
I had a cardiac arrest in APR and now Im pretty much forced to be natty.
I cant even train yet until I get a stress test on my heart.

Once I do I plan on going back to training and eating like a bodybuilder.
I have pics from right now. Im skinny and fat if thats possible. No you cant see yet. Ill post before and after eventually.

Ill run a natty log so people can see that with dedication you can get close to the AAS fueled state natty. (once you have been there of course)
Its not ever gonna happen if you dont already have the muscle tissue.
ONce its there though plenty of food and cardio and proper training will get you close to where you want to go...



I miss my balls.

Originally Posted by brundel

I was on for about a decade.
Truth be told I have never run a PCT either. Not once.
Obviously Im on hrt.
I had a cardiac arrest in APR and now Im pretty much forced to be natty.
I cant even train yet until I get a stress test on my heart.

Once I do I plan on going back to training and eating like a bodybuilder.
I have pics from right now. Im skinny and fat if thats possible. No you cant see yet. Ill post before and after eventually.

Ill run a natty log so people can see that with dedication you can get close to the AAS fueled state natty. (once you have been there of course)
Its not ever gonna happen if you dont already have the muscle tissue.
ONce its there though plenty of food and cardio and proper training will get you close to where you want to go...



I miss my balls.

what caused your heart attack bro?

any ideas?

Originally Posted by jimm

Thanks for your honesty mate. No pct atall thats pretty nuts...



congratulation on fathering a kid. reasuring to know it is possible especially whilse beeing on


one more thing did you ever compete or just bodybuild for the love of it?

No, never competed but I have been in pretty good shape recently.

Originally Posted by heavyiron

No, never competed but I have been in pretty good shape recently.

Did you take anything to supplement LH and FSH while on TRT to have a kid? What did your levels look like around the time you conceived?

Originally Posted by TwisT

Did you take anything to supplement LH and FSH while on TRT to have a kid? What did your levels look like around the time you conceived?

Yes, I was on 300mg T Cyp weekly, 500iu HCG twice weekly and 0.5mg arimidex eod. In retrospect I should have been on more HCG. Keep in mind we used no birth control for over 10 years so concieving was pretty lucky.

Originally Posted by brundel

I was on for about a decade.
Truth be told I have never run a PCT either. Not once.
Obviously Im on hrt.
I had a cardiac arrest in APR and now Im pretty much forced to be natty.
I cant even train yet until I get a stress test on my heart.

Once I do I plan on going back to training and eating like a bodybuilder.
I have pics from right now. Im skinny and fat if thats possible. No you cant see yet. Ill post before and after eventually.

Ill run a natty log so people can see that with dedication you can get close to the AAS fueled state natty. (once you have been there of course)
Its not ever gonna happen if you dont already have the muscle tissue.
ONce its there though plenty of food and cardio and proper training will get you close to where you want to go...



I miss my balls.

mate thats harsh!

do you know what caused your cardiac arrest? u think maybe u had a undiagnosed heart condition and/or the gear just made it worse?

i dont know what ur diet is like, but i think you should still be eating healthy like a bodybuilder just less calories?

i hope you bounce back bro and everything is arite for you, and you can get back to what you love doing..

have you not trainined sinse it happend? must be hard more time spend out the gym less motivated ur gonna be to get back in!


just a thought maybe u should ask your doc if its ok to do calisthenics and stuff at home? u know like i said i dont know ur diet but by the way u said "once u do go back to training and eating like a bodybuilder leads me to belive ur maybe slaking and not eating as well (clean) as you should? like i said could be wrong but if i were u id ask about calisthenics and eat clean obv you wont need to be eating on a calorie suplus as if you were lifting heavy weights.. but could help keep you motivated untill u get the all clear..

all the best bro hope u get better soon

Originally Posted by heavyiron

Yes, I was on 300mg T Cyp weekly, 500iu HCG twice weekly and 0.5mg arimidex eod. In retrospect I should have been on more HCG. Keep in mind we used no birth control for over 10 years so concieving was pretty lucky.

heavy,

im just about to turn 24 if i was to cruise between my next cycle would u reccomend hcg 500iu twice weekly and arimidex 0.5 eod