Tbol will be as good and much cheaper, even cheaper if you get PH version (H-drol)
Edit.
Although there was a 'gain-keeper formula' circulating on bb boards a few years ago. Author - a pro bb been recommending to add anavar at the end of the cycle.

So my im trying to do a lean bulk. Goal is to put on 12 solid pounds. Would throwing anavar in at 100mg for 10 weeks help with the hardening effect and help add a few solid pounds?
My cycle as of now
Test prop 600mg weeks 1-12
NPP 600mg 1-12
Dbol 50mg weeks 1-4
And thinking Anavar 100mg weeks 3-12
ghrp6/cjc no dac 200/100 3 shots everyday and 3iu hgh\
Maybe t3
Tbol will be as good and much cheaper, even cheaper if you get PH version (H-drol)
Edit.
Although there was a 'gain-keeper formula' circulating on bb boards a few years ago. Author - a pro bb been recommending to add anavar at the end of the cycle.

The reason I like anavar is it gave me crazy veins last time i took on a cut. Also its not as harsh on liver so if I do dbol as well it wont be as bad prob still gonna fuck shit up but ill take alot of liv support and bounce back after cycle
Last edited by Bfriedman1017; 08-22-2012 at 08:25 AM.
Dbol will definitely cause water retention, unlike tbol. You can gain fat or loose fat on any steroids, its all about the diet.
100mgs/day of anavar? that's bad for the liver
http://www.isteroids.com/

Ya but liver values recover fairly fast right? I haven't drank in 19 months and don't touch drugs so that is to my advantage.



Just had bloods done on Anavar 80 mgs ed - All good values. Triglyserides actually went down. Gotta say 13 weeks on orals sounds a bit long though IMHO ? I get nervous doing 4 week kickstart with a 4 week backload of orals ? Watch the t-3 because t-4 can make my hands shake (LOL). Good luck.
If you ain't cheating, your just not tryin !

Ya man it will prob be closer to 12 but shit ur prob right lol. I did 12 weeks anavar at 100mg last cycle and liver values were deff elevated. Like 75 and 80. But I was taking aleve at the time and last time I got bloods and was taking aleve for a injury my liver was elevated and finished a tren test cycle 2 months before tests no orals, then 3-4 weeks later it went back to normal with no aleve.

I actually have been really contemplating adding winny. The only thing im scared of is my hairline. Anavar and nandrolone are easy on hair. Ill be using topical spiro nizoral 2 percent and rogaine maybe some n2shampoo and toco 8 for the test. What you think is worse on hairline winny or dbol? Also what's better injectable winny or oral?

Winny was really harsh for me. I personally would run anavar over winny for many reasons the biggest one being winny gave me the worst joints ever!!! After like 7 days at 50mg ed I had to stop because my joints hurt so bad it was effecting my lifts. Its also pretty bad on the hair line and makes me angry as all hell. I never get really hot really quick unless I'm on winny then its game over. Everyone is different though

IMHO, I think number one its a waste of money. Anavar is expensive and any oral for that duration is going to be hard on the liver. I would personally just use the Anavar the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle to add the hardness and vascularity you are looking for. Also, I would leave out the D-bol. You are doing Test prop which is fast acting so you really don't need the jumpstart into the cycle. Just my advice though.


What really worked for me on my bulk cycle and kept TONS of my gains- strength went down but size stayed
week 1-8
700 mg primo
600 test e
dbol 80mg
9-16
test 900
primo gram
anavar 50
winny 50
If I can do it over, I would have tossed the Winny and bump up the anavar. My lipids were fine, but winny kills my joints and I feel like I could have got better gains on my tri-ceps with out winny. On winny it ruins my work outs from elbow joint pain. I went from 189 to 209 on this cycle at 5 8 and I am now 4 weeks off cycle holding in at 200lbs. My weight stopped dropping and I feel like it was mostly water weight that I lost because my size is still identical, but like I said my strength went down, but not by much 20lbs on squats and bench maybe 15lbs. Overall increase was GREAT.


Will Anavar (or any other anabolic) help you gain 12lbs? Yes
Do I think you should use Anavar? No
You are already using Dbol @ 50mg ED for the first 4 weeks.. Just give your liver a 4 week break, then back on Dbol or Super DMZ 2.0 for another 4 weeks..
But wtf do I know? I'm just a fat BITCH

Aight so I decided to get rid of the dbol only because I don't wanna risk the hairline issue. Also Im trying to get leaner gains. Im prob gonna do var 100mg for 12 weeks with liver support and shit. NPP, test, hgh ghrp6/cjc no dac as well.
So just read the replies didn't realize there were so many. Yo ive been thinking of adding primo this cycle i dno might just save it for next cut cycle test var primo! shit would be redic on a cut. But still thinking of adding it to this bulk for some nice lean gains.


Primo was AMAZING. I kick started with Dbol to get my mind pumped up basically and then as soon as I was off the dbol I started to see slight gains from the PRIMO then honestly each day I would drop .5% bf and kept getting size. Around the 10th week my mind was blown at the gains. Primo was a pain in the ass and expensive even though I get my primo at a ridiculous cheap price. Pain in the ass from the amount of pinning.

How is it on the hairline I hear its not to bad some people say its brutal but I feel like for most its fine. Ill prob run it at 700 for 12 weeks if I get.