Thread: First Cycle - Tren, Test P & Stana.. too much..? or ?

Forget about the compounds in the cycle you proposed, the very idea that you're running a cycle at 170lbs with 16-20% bf is absurd.

Don't bother with any of the input you receive here that doesn't boil down to, "Don't do this." Anyone who encourages you to cycle right now is of tremendously dubious credibility.

Don't do it. Get up to at least 180bs on that height with a decent BF before considering a cycle.

Thanks guys. I did forget to mention, im 21.
Im needing to get some half decent gains before the end of year. Would something like a simple cycle of test p be ok?

At 170lbs id dare say im currently sitting at 16%. Ive previously touched clen, & althought results were good, and i did cut up quiet a bit im wanting to steer clear from Clen.. hence including stana into the proposed cycle..

Thanks for all your help.

So, your 170lbs w/16-20% bf AND your 21?! Well, at least OP didn't say he was 16!

Dude, you need to train harder and eat MOAR (depending on goals). 6 months isn't long enough to consider a cycle and your too young. You still have some good solid gains that can be made natty. If your looking for a solid routine checkout Mass Intentions 40. It's the workout method IFBB Pro Ben Pakulski came up with. I haven't used, just got the whole program, but my buddy did and he added an 1"-1.5" everywhere while losing 4 inches in his waist and he did it all natural.

Originally Posted by anths101

Thanks guys. I did forget to mention, im 21.
Im needing to get some half decent gains before the end of year. Would something like a simple cycle of test p be ok?

At 170lbs id dare say im currently sitting at 16%. Ive previously touched clen, & althought results were good, and i did cut up quiet a bit im wanting to steer clear from Clen.. hence including stana into the proposed cycle..

Thanks for all your help.

Brother...There's no need for a cycle at this point. Food will add gains with the test your body is already producing, and a solid training regiment and cardio will help you drop some extra lbs.
No need to be spend coin on test when your body is already producing a nice amount for free!

i wish like hell when these dumb ass people post stuff like this just close it.if these kids are not smart enough to at least lie about there age .i mean i know 100% how all these post a going to go before i even open them up there is no way that people are as dumb as 90% of this post that start out with i am 19 and want to get huge i am thinking of running 6gram of test 4 grams of tren etc etc.come on just close them from the get go.

Op

the problem here isn't your age.. your physique indicates that you greatly lack understanding regarding diet and training.. get that in order then start cycling

Whats the hurry? First thing is first there is never a hurry where you have to get into shape. You just want to and sounds like you don't want to put in the hardwork. One way or another your going to use no matter what people here tell you. But do your self a favor and lay off those compounds. Start out with 600 testE a week. Pin monday and thursday. Way easier then the cycle you proposed. Do this for 8 weeks PCT and then take another 6-8 weeks off and then maybe toss in an oral with your next cycle. Tren is hard on you like really bad, if you have never used AAS it can be VERY over whelming it was for me. I did tren a year ago after using for a year and I could not handle it. I am all most three years into gear now and thinking about using tren, but only because I am going to compete. Slow down and take breather for a second.

Also that cycle is murder on your lipids stanozolol and tren is rough.

Agreed all around, wait two years and get your diet on check. You have very little lbm and too much fat at this point. I would cut naturally down to 11-12% and then bulk back to 170-175 at that bf then reasess. Definitely no tren for firsr cycle though.

Originally Posted by anths101

Hi Guys,
First time poster, long time reader. After some advice & opinions on running my first cycle.

Bare Essentials - 5'10, 170lbs, sitting at around 16-20% bf.

Ive been training on & off for 3 years, and last 6 months have been serious, in terms of my nutrition intake, & training consistancy. Am needing to get in shape in the space of 3 months (12 weeks).

I'm wanting to get much leaner (ideally sit around 10%) while putting on size.

Contemplating running
Tren 100mg Eod
Test P 100mg eod
& Stana-50.

Contemplating either a 6 or 8 week cycle.

Thanks so much in advance! appreciate all the advice you can put forward.

what are you doing for PCT?

http://www.isteroids.com/

Thanks Guys! All the above is appreciated. Look was after more an opinion then anything else. Tren is rough & have definetly decided against it. Got my bf checked yesterday, sitting at 14.6% so on the way down.. Thanks again!

Originally Posted by anths101

Thanks guys. I did forget to mention, im 21.
Im needing to get some half decent gains before the end of year. Would something like a simple cycle of test p be ok?

On one hand I want to tell you that at 21 and only 170 pounds, you have so much to gain and should be approaching this with a mentality of excitement and invigoration. On the other hand, I want to punch you in the fucking mug because you're still asking us to affirm your desire to run a moronic ill-advised cycle that is abusing the way steroids should be utilized in bodybuilding. They're supposed to be like jumper cables, but you're just using them as the whole goddamned battery. Eat, sleep, and train naturally, put on some legitimate weight, then consider graduating to AAS.

Do what you want, but I won't give you any advice on how to misuse steroids, which are stigmatized in our society BECAUSE people do stupid shit with them like you're talking about.

Originally Posted by teezhay

On one hand I want to tell you that at 21 and only 170 pounds, you have so much to gain and should be approaching this with a mentality of excitement and invigoration. On the other hand, I want to punch you in the fucking mug because you're still asking us to affirm your desire to run a moronic ill-advised cycle that is abusing the way steroids should be utilized in bodybuilding. They're supposed to be like jumper cables, but you're just using them as the whole goddamned battery. Eat, sleep, and train naturally, put on some legitimate weight, then consider graduating to AAS.

Do what you want, but I won't give you any advice on how to misuse steroids, which are stigmatized in our society BECAUSE people do stupid shit with them like you're talking about.

THIS^^^

He put it a littler harshly than I would have but he isn't wrong. Asking questions for educational purposes at your age is all right and I encourage that cause if your asking your more likely to do it. So you've graduated from the pondering to the planning basically. You sorely need more info in this area as your cycle was not a newb cycle. I'd start out with a PH before I'd start out on real gear BUT when your older! Not now! But that's just me though...

Bro, you have enough natural test flowing through you at 21. You need to train harder and get your diet in check. Do those two things ans I promise you will see gains.

Originally Posted by tallguy34

Asking questions for educational purposes at your age is all right and I encourage that cause if your asking your more likely to do it. So you've graduated from the pondering to the planning basically. You sorely need more info in this area as your cycle was not a newb cycle. I'd start out with a PH before I'd start out on real gear BUT when your older! Not now! But that's just me though...

Bro, you have enough natural test flowing through you at 21. You need to train harder and get your diet in check. Do those two things ans I promise you will see gains.

Thanks bro! yea ive decided to train naturally for a long while to come, build a good base then look at gear! Appreciate all the help!