i wsih vibrant or someone that have tried ptren would reply to me

hello
im going to start a cycle of propionyltrenbolone
ive read vibrants thread about it but ive some questions about my cycle
1- how long should the cycle be?
2- can i do 10 weeks of test and then do the ptren for few weeks from week 8?
thanks

i wsih vibrant or someone that have tried ptren would reply to me
1- Read Vibrant's log again.1- how long should the cycle be?
2- can i do 10 weeks of test and then do the ptren for few weeks from week 8?
2- You don't know the first thing about what they are doing. Read every sticky and gain some knowledge before you start cycling.
^^^^^^THIS! There's several of us that have tried it now.. and I understand everyone wanting to try it.... but you really gotta give people your stats(allof them, including cycle experience) before anyone can answer your questions. It's an awesome aas, but I still wouldn't recommend it to someone without plenty of experience... You need the experience in order to use some of the more 'elaborate compounds'.... you need to know that more is not always better, etc, etc... (that is definitely the case with this one!!! I did a large amt for a very short period of time.. only a couple days... just to see what would happen.... and it does pretty much the opposite(in nearly every aspect) when this is done... I only did it because I was one of the people 'testing' it out, as was Vibrant... and I have good medical insurance, so I made myself a 'guinea pig' in a way)... throw your stats out there and me and vibrant will look it over and give you both of our opinions, as I'm sure everyone who's taken it will do the same.... PM me when you put these up, and send me the link to this thread.. I can't follow every thread I post on, my email and everything would be overflowing with shit I gotta wade through!

i would wait for more people who actually ran a cycle to try this new compound. you never know if the compound is so toxic that would lead to cancer/death. everybody respond differently to gear... don't care how good your insurance is. being treated for cancer is not fun.
the way i see it, they attached a proionyl to trenbolone (or trenbolone to proionyl which makes no sense ), which verson of the proionyl did they use, most of them are very toxic. bottom line, need to wait.

im 22 around 190 lbs 10% bf 182 cm
and ihave done 2 cycles 10 weeks of test e with 4 weeks of super dmz 2.0
12 weeks of 500 mg test e and 4 weeks kick start of 30mg dbol


no one with any credibility has given this stuff a voucher...so why bother
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I trust overburdeneds opinion personally


i thought i read he had a hand in making it
anyway march this year...dont know him..
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i want to see a real log
and no...vibrant doesnt even remotely count
any log without pics...or by someone affiliated to some degree with the seller
i mean fuck... brain dead
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OB is not afiliated with anyone. He was a beta tester of ptren and helped named it. OB has a great log as do a few others over on iron juggernauts. OB had labs in the log and the compound was begnine to liver values.
This board turned to shit so most of us aren't on here often.
Look I hear ya these boards are all about greased palms and advertising the product of the week.....so u def gotta sift through the bullshit!
You, bro.... make no sense at all... I'm not trying to bash you... what you just said absolutely contradicts bloodwork done by several people(me included,,,) pre, mid, and post cycle! 'which version of proionyl did they use, most of them are very toxic'....this shows your lack of any knowledge of chemistry or knowledge of what you are talking about....
we KNOW the compound is not toxic! I'll be the first to say, inexperienced aas users should not just jump on it.... but we do know at this point that it is not hepatotoxic to any great degree... in fact most people's bloodwork came back with better liver enzymes than before use(mine included)... my cholesterol levels improved as well...
giving someone advice is one thing, spitting bs out your mouth is another!
If you are going to say I have no credibility, you are dead wrong!!! lets see your accomplishments!!! I'm not going around bashing you, don't bash me, it's a battle you won' win... I have 10x the knowledge of steroids you will ever hope to achieve in your lifetime first off... second off, nobody that tried this stuff out before he brought it to market was offered a penny for their logs... and nobody wrote anything that wasn't dead accurate! if anything, we were all careful and made sure nothing we wrote was not coincidental or anything like that.. many of us, me included(in fact I think we all did this) waited to put it in our logs because it did seem to good to be true... and we all downplayed it rather than uplayed it, just to err on the side of caution! This compound is everything and then some that it is made out to be in the logs! just because you may or may not lie for reimbursement does not mean any of us would stoop to your level! if something isn't what it's made up to be, I'll be the first one to call it out! I am honest in reviews of every product I use, and always will be.... without your integrity you are nothing! Dont chime in on something you dont' have the slightest clue about... it just makes you look even more ignorant!!!
I researched it.... and I Theorized what it could do.... almost 100% of which was true, to the T.... but it had positive side effects that I didn't even see.... things are possible, in vivo, of having predicted effects, or not having predicted effects....this particular compound had all the predicted effects, and some that were unpredicted(which just so happened to be good side effects, not negative... great... it turned out even better than predicted!)


awesome bashing
you are really cool now
vibrants logs mean nothing...he has never posted a shred of proof to back up any of his post
you helped name said compound but have no dealings with the supplier...ok...i am retarded...i beleive you
no questions asked
why dont you guys supply an outside party with the supply for a REAL log...someone who has NOTHING to gain...a non rep
lol at bashinmg anyone who asked for the truth and nothing but
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I'm not going to keep typing out long responses, for the sight to kick me out when I post reply... I will leave it at this... PM ANYONE THAT HAS USED PTREN, ask them if it did for them, what claims were made in logs... you won't find a dissatisfied user. you won't find someone that doesn't say, yes, it does that(to some degree or another, in every individual, 90+% of the things that were notice by us are noticed by everyone).. you can't say that about most aas... its 60-70% usually... everyone who has used it will tell you it's the real deal... sorry you weren't included in the 'testers'.... you can't give free product to everyone


evrone who has claimed to have exp with this compound is a rep....or trying to sell it to me thru pm
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oh...i dont want the shit
ill be damned if i put something in my body that doesnt have on credible log
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I am the only rep for airsealed... I guarantee i haven't pm'd you... I can't tell you if a mass pm was sent out by anyone... who is trying to selll it to you? would you like me to pm you the link to my log?(you can take what I say in it for granted if you like... if you think my view is biased, so be it... there are 6 or 8 people that used it in the period my log has been up, and chimed in on my log... that PAID for the product.... will that satisfy your curiosity?


well obviously i would like to see the logs
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You have links, and also a photopage with a guy that used it in contest prep in your PM's.. I gave you the date he stopped taking it... he started it when on the date of first photo.... there's tons of info there, and it will take you a while to sort through it, but everyone except me, airsealed, vibrant, and a friend of airsealed(that is a pro fighter), paid for theirs..... they are all truthfull, but you can dismiss the ones that didn't pay for their samples if you wish

killer so why don't u buy some and give it to someone else to try then. For fucks sake......
If u don't wanna try it then don't. No one is holding a gun to your head.
I could say that I'm on it.....doesn't prove a thing. if u just want to see labs there are already threads for that. I'm not getting my labs for another month or so.
go try some pro hormones....because those are all safe :P
fuck it im goin for it, overburdened can you PM me the details for making it? also where do i get the glycol and everclear?


TheCaptn' is not a registered proctologist. His post are for his amusement only. Please seek proper medical advice if symptoms persist.
glycerol can be got at any good drug store
OverB Could you start a new thread in research / homebrew section post some recipes for Ptren oral solution?