Thread: First cycle of testo E

Hey Arotha, I can't believe you didn't get any responces ? First good job going slow with just one compound. 8 weeks is short, but europeans like short high androgenic cycles anyway. I think letro is to much unless you have gyno now ? For PCT nolva is good enough. Some guys swear by Comid, and doctors here in America give it for low T all the time. The only anti E guys run for pct is Aromasin at 12.5 eod. Clomid & Nolva are SERMS. Take off like 12 weeks then maybe try Prop-NPP, or Dbol for 8 weeks ? Good luck, I love Norway.

Originally Posted by Arotha

Hello guys, I'm a newb at this, but I'll try and explain as best as I possibly can.

I started off by going 1 ml a week for 4 weeks (250mg) of testosterone enanthate, then upped the dosage to 2 ml a week (500 mg) for the last 4 weeks. (8 weeks total of cycle).
The reasoning behind this was to see how my body reacted. I've gained 9 kilos so far, and entering my last week of cycle on monday. Gained a lot of strength aswell, so it's all good.

I'm closing in on my PCT, but need some advice. I have always been plagued with what seems like gyno, as I have always been on the fat side. My plan was to wait 2 weeks after last injection and start on nolvadex for 3 weeks.
I'm reading up that letrozole is a better PCT for killing off Gyno. Should I stick with Nolvadex, or go on Letrozole instead? I'm not planning on doing any more cycles, so I want to kill of my gyno..
If I should start on letro, I've read up that I should stay on it for 30 days. Any advice is gladly welcome..


On a side note, I've read that detection time on testo E is 3 months, does this mean that it can't be detected in urine/blood after about 3 months?

/regards, newbie..

You should pass on the letro altogether....
stay on the nolva, you can start taking it now, it will begin to work right away... I would add aromasin and clomid to your pct to get the full endogenous test up and running again!... nolva is better at the gyno, with far fewer sides, than letro.... letro just lowers estrogen more(that DOESN'T mean it works better!) That gives you low estrogen sides, which are NOT fun at all!

stick with the plan you had with the nolva... add in a little aromasin like AMA Rider said, and also clomid, if you really wanna kick in the natty test well!

Originally Posted by Arotha

Hello guys, I'm a newb at this, but I'll try and explain as best as I possibly can.

I started off by going 1 ml a week for 4 weeks (250mg) of testosterone enanthate, then upped the dosage to 2 ml a week (500 mg) for the last 4 weeks. (8 weeks total of cycle).
The reasoning behind this was to see how my body reacted. I've gained 9 kilos so far, and entering my last week of cycle on monday. Gained a lot of strength aswell, so it's all good.

I'm closing in on my PCT, but need some advice. I have always been plagued with what seems like gyno, as I have always been on the fat side. My plan was to wait 2 weeks after last injection and start on nolvadex for 3 weeks.
I'm reading up that letrozole is a better PCT for killing off Gyno. Should I stick with Nolvadex, or go on Letrozole instead? I'm not planning on doing any more cycles, so I want to kill of my gyno..
If I should start on letro, I've read up that I should stay on it for 30 days. Any advice is gladly welcome..


On a side note, I've read that detection time on testo E is 3 months, does this mean that it can't be detected in urine/blood after about 3 months?

/regards, newbie..

There is a COMMON misconception that letro is better at getting rid of gyno... IT'S NOT TRUE!!! nolva works best, and if you want to add an AI to the nolva to make it work a little better, I would use aromasin. You will get rebound gyno off letro, so what is the point of using it?!?!?! In addition, letro will lower your e2 so low, you'll wish you were dead! You will feel like shit, have ZERO sex drive, have ACHY joints, etc , etc.... go with the nolva, and aromasin(nolva should always be your fist line of defense on gyno!!!

Agree with overburdened, letro sucks. Good luck with your 2 month flaccid penis goals in 2012, and have fun explaining to your girl over the sound of your dry creaking joints lol. Nolva + proviron worked really well for me, also using a low dose of formeron and test e. felt much much better than letro, the nolva does seem to affect my libido a bit but apparently that's not too common, and not nearly as severe as letro.

I currently run Letro at 2.5mg/daily...Although my cycle looks extremely different then yours. I agree with above, if your running just lower dosages of Test even with some stacks Aromasin will be more than efficient. Now, do to the fact that you already have gyno, you obviously need to reverse it. I would attack it with 40mgs/daily of Nolva for 2 weeks then run maintance dosage of 20mgs/daily. You could also run this during your cycle as well in conjuction with something like Aromasin if your prone to gyno. I was prone to gyno as well when I had a higher bf % during bulking phases, so I would run 20mgs/daily with my Aromasin to keep things in check. Now I prefer to keep my bf % lower yearly which the only real form I have of gyno is when I run my Tren, in that case I use prami twice a week at .25 say Monday and Friday due to Prolactin build up. You guys think Letro makes you feel like ass, try hitting to much of Prami at one time, barfed all day while having a hard on....lol

Originally Posted by Tooreal11

I currently run Letro at 2.5mg/daily...Although my cycle looks extremely different then yours. I agree with above, if your running just lower dosages of Test even with some stacks Aromasin will be more than efficient. Now, do to the fact that you already have gyno, you obviously need to reverse it. I would attack it with 40mgs/daily of Nolva for 2 weeks then run maintance dosage of 20mgs/daily. You could also run this during your cycle as well in conjuction with something like Aromasin if your prone to gyno. I was prone to gyno as well when I had a higher bf % during bulking phases, so I would run 20mgs/daily with my Aromasin to keep things in check. Now I prefer to keep my bf % lower yearly which the only real form I have of gyno is when I run my Tren, in that case I use prami twice a week at .25 say Monday and Friday due to Prolactin build up. You guys think Letro makes you feel like ass, try hitting to much of Prami at one time, barfed all day while having a hard on....lol

niice. YOu like prami more than caber?