Neggd.
Not to harsh if you run it properly.

how harsh will super dmz 2.0 be without test but still taking every other pre caution
Neggd.
Not to harsh if you run it properly.
Not harsh at all. Perhaps less feelings of well being. But You can run dmz alone and still have really good results. You will gain more weight with test most likely.
But you can still pack on some weight without it and honestly, you will probably cut-up (on a cal deficit) much easier without the water retention associated with test.

how harsh would it be without test then and not even without good pre cautions
It'll be fine. Just test gives u a better sense of well being and u get more gains

cause i have gotten so many people saying test is better and i know it is im not debating that i just wanna know will I be fine running super dmz 2.0 with all pre cautions, a good pct with a serm and without test
You'll die instantly.

haha i guess what im asking is how hard will i get shut down,