Thread: gyno

Holy cross posting the same thread batman.

You only need to post a thread once...4 times...ridiculous.

First...go to the new member section and introduce yourself.
Second...post a thread ONCE and wait for answers...when you do stupid things you're gonna get negged and slammed.
By slammed I mean ass raped and hard.

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Originally Posted by jackedjay

I got gyno a few months back from running halo extreme and cyanostane from iron mag labs. I did all the proper pct and on the last week of pct my nipples started getting itchy than soon after lumps formed. They were at the size of peas by the time i ordered tamox and ran that for over 4 weeks and it only got worse. I soon could squeeze them and liquid would come out. I tried running torem and they started to get better than seemed to stay the same added in adex and nothing from that. I just started letro and caber. I tapered up to 2.5 mg and today was the third day at 2.5 so far no lack of libido or achy joints so not sure if the letro is legit. I ordered from puritysolutions. Nipples seem to be less sensitive than they were before but no change in size. My diet is very clean as i am trying to keep my bf at 10 percent nipples are still super puffy. Any ideas on how long letro should take or anyone know of a legit pharma to get letro from?

My advice would be to quit messing with them and pinching them and seeing if stuff comes out when you pinch them... this is the whole reason 'fluid' came out to begin with... the skin around your nipple contains millions of nerves that sense 'stimulation' and cause the body to produce and release prolactin into the blood stream.... The worst thing you can do when you have gyno is to 'check' it constantly!!!

stick with the nolva, and caber.. and get your bloodwork done to see if the letro is legit...(I've used PS caber, and it was decent.. nothing spectacular, but decent... can't say anything about their letro, as I DO NOT use letro!)

If your e2 is high, you should be looking for a legit source for an AI(at this point you need one).. but use nolva daily(even twice daily if you want to see a little better results from it... serms and AI's have MUCH shorter half lives in men, than in women.... so sometimes more frequent dosing is necessary), and use the caber eod....

I would suggest using aromasin as an AI, and base the dose off of bloodwork.... aromasin, to carry full effectiveness, should be dosed once to twice daily in men... If your e2 levels are high, you may need to start with 37.5-50mg of aromasin/day... but bring it down to 12.5-25mg per day(best if split into two doses daily) when your e2 is to a decent level... at that point continue the three(caber, nolva, and asin) till the lump is gone, and then for another month beyond that, then taper them down if you don't want to keep taking them(you don't generally see any rebound from these 3, but tapering will make sure you don't see rebound from them!)

Hey, maybe you can grow your own funbags.
Imagine all the money you can make letting all the little boys play with your boobies at a dollar a pop.

Listen to overburdened. He gives excellent advice.
It sounds like you need to find a more reliable source for accurately dosed meds.
Check out the board sponsors, read the reviews in the sponsor forums and order from the ones who've been tried and proven.
Do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
I am sure you will get some answers here but my suggestion is to go and see your doctor.
It sounds to me like you need medical attention.

Sorry to come across as an annoying asshole I wasn't trying to piss anyone off by posting so much. Most of the forums I post in people don't reply and I didn't know which forum to post in. Anyway I wish I could go to a doctor to see what's up but I won't have insurance till the first of the year so I have to go by what you guys say. I tried nolva for awhile but it only got worse I dunno if the chem was under dosed or what. And why caber eod I read not to do it more than twice a week? You think an AI would work better than letro? The last thread I read a few people did letro prami and forma stanzol would that be a good idea or not? And I don't play with my nipples that was a couple months ago before I knew what was going on now I just check them eod to see if it getting smaller.

How old are you?

I'm 24

Originally Posted by jackedjay

Sorry to come across as an annoying asshole I wasn't trying to piss anyone off by posting so much. Most of the forums I post in people don't reply and I didn't know which forum to post in. Anyway I wish I could go to a doctor to see what's up but I won't have insurance till the first of the year so I have to go by what you guys say. I tried nolva for awhile but it only got worse I dunno if the chem was under dosed or what. And why caber eod I read not to do it more than twice a week? You think an AI would work better than letro? The last thread I read a few people did letro prami and forma stanzol would that be a good idea or not? And I don't play with my nipples that was a couple months ago before I knew what was going on now I just check them eod to see if it getting smaller.

Letro is an ai. Do some research.

Just follow what overb said.

What do you mean you took nolva for a while? once you got gyno, there is no quick fix other than surgery. It takes time for the serms/ai's to work, if you have pain/discomfort they may work pretty quickly to help with that but to actually reduce gyno takes time.

Unfortunately many research chems are underdosed or no dosed.
It depends mainly on the quality of the chem powder used to make the finished product.
You can have great luck with a source who then gets a batch of underdosed powder and had no idea their product is bunk.
Unless each batch of a chem is tested this can happen to anyone.

If all of your stuff is coming from the same source I'd say it's time to find a new source...check the board sponsors.

Get some bloodwork...even without insurance there are ways to get it done cheap: Cheap Bloodwork - How to Get It WITHOUT Insurance
Don't wait for new insurance, by then you may need surgery.

It sounds like you are very prone to estrogen related sides and aromatisation.
Guys may tell you liquid caber works but I have always found it too unstable in liquid form.
Order some real prami or caber.

Take nolva and exemestane daily. Nolva treatment takes time, like months. Most studies on gyno reversal using it are 6 months long. The good news ..it usually doesnt take that long unless you have fiberous lumps. The nolva will block the estrogen receptor in the brest tissue, preventing the worsening of the gyno and also in the abscence of estroegen at that recptor site the tissue will actually die. The exemestane will manage your estrogen levels. A low dose is what I would recommend. It is important that you use exemesane as your ai as it is a type 1 ai. Serms reduce the effectiveness of type 2 ai's like letro and adex by a significant amount. Like 37% with letro. There is no reduction in effectiveness when using a serm with a type 1 ai like exemestane.
Be patient - this takes time.
Also if you are gonna use RC compnaies I have found its best to stick with the bigger ones regardless of cost. You get what you pay for. There is a big one that is main sponsor here I have had great success ith.

I tried nolva for two months at 20-30 mg a day with no luck whatsoever it only seemed to get worse who knows maybe I had bunk stuff. I had better luck with torem but didn't really see much luck with it after a month of use but your right maybe I just need to find a reliable source and stick with it for awhile. From every forum I read everyone has a different method most people suggested letro that's why I thought I'd give it a shot. So far they are looking way better than with anything else but it's only been a week so will see after a month of this. I've also heard ralox works great with an AI anyone have any good experiences? I will try to get some blood work done this weekend after the holiday and see what my levels are at.

Only thing to do is bloodwork otherwise your just throwing shit at it not knowing what the problem is. If u can't get blood work throw letro at it and see how that works

Didn't see ur last post

I'm going to go get blood work done Friday. Am I just getting my estrogen and test tested or what?

Originally Posted by jackedjay

I'm going to go get blood work done Friday. Am I just getting my estrogen and test tested or what?

Read this post...it explains how to get your bloodwork done: Cheap Bloodwork - How to Get It WITHOUT Insurance

YES, get estrogen panel done... post up the results and we can help you a lot more at that point

Originally Posted by overburdened

YES, get estrogen panel done... post up the results and we can help you a lot more at that point

It will be much easier to figure out what you need to do once have have the results from the lab.

What lab are you using?

Friday ill go to privatemedlabs like you suggested and get the female hormone panel and ill post my results as soon as I get them so you guys can help me figure out what I need to do.

Originally Posted by jackedjay

Friday ill go to privatemedlabs like you suggested and get the female hormone panel and ill post my results as soon as I get them so you guys can help me figure out what I need to do.

There you go.. Now you are making progress!

It's nice to see someone actually taking advice. We're here to help not to put u down. When u post up the labs we will be able to pin point the problem and get it under control

Well I tried to get my blood work done and of course they are closed till Monday so ill go back than hopefully have the results Tuesday for you guys.

Just got my lab results in my platelets were a little low my lymphs were high and my glucose low. Other than that everything tested where it should. My test serum was 1084 the range was 348-1197. My luteinizing hormone was 25.1 range was 1.7-8.6 so that one is pretty high. My fsh was 10.2 out of 1.5-12.4 and estradiol was 15.1 out of 7.6-42.6.
Does this mean my letro is working. Today is week two that ive been on it as well as caber. My dose for letro is 2.5 for the last week. Still no sides no achy joints and sex drive is still strong as ever.

I wanna say you prob get legit letro. Estrogen is a little high for using letro 2.5mg everyday. BUT I got blood work last week as well on letro and my LH was through the roof like 30 and test went up alot. I guess letro can boost your test and LH. You prob should of got prolactin as well. I got small gyno to

Oh ya my estrogen was at 8 and I was on for only 8 days. My fsh was also elevated. If money isn't a issue id get bloods one more time in 2 weeks.

have you noticed any side effects? how bad is your gyno? have you seen any improvements with letro?

my gyno was about 3/4 of a dime on left nipple and right was smaller then a pea. Now my left nipple is about the size of a pea and right one is for some reason pea sized once in a while. No one can notice with my shirt off but when I wear some t shirts I can see nipples through shirt. Both nipples have been staying hard which sucks. My left nipple I think has gotten softer and smaller. I ordered a compression vest until I can get rid of the gyno.
Sides honestly none maybe joints a little bit but nothing to crazy. Still getting hard on in the morning. Not really horny but the hard on are pretty constant at night and in morning. Im going to keep runnning the letro till the 6th then run nolva for a week. Start cycle and POSSIBLY run raloxifene throughout cycle and maybe even up to 6 months. I just wanna make sure its 100 percent gone. Ive also been running prami before bed at .3 just to be safe.

Ya mine is about the size of a dime goes all the way down to a pea size if i do a crap ton of cardio and limit my carbs. No one has noticed mine but I can see them poking through my shirt and they look puffy when you look at the side of them. Them aren't super sensitive anymore which is a plus would hurt like a bitch if someone or something bumped into them. Is the prami working I didn't know whether to try that or caber so I went with caber.