test e can have any number of reasons it hurts.. contaminants in the raw,or the oil... 'reactants' left in the test e(from manufacturing it....the esters are organic acids to begin with, so you could have some pain from a unreacted carboxylic acid group in the raw powder.... I've seen test e that has melted, and taken the plastic bag it was in with it....(as in, it melted the bag, and the bag became part of the test e at that point)... Tren e is quite a bit different in it's physical properties than test e, so there usually isn't this issue with some compounds with the enanthate ester(even though they have the same ester, they are FAR different, in matters of physical properties, than test e...) tren e is a powder, test e is a 'waxy type' compound... I would venture to guess the test e raws the UGL used are not up to pharma grade, and have unreacted acid in it still... thus the acid is in your oil! This could cause some pretty severe pip, among many other things!




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