Thread: First cycle sus 250..just a few questions

Yes u can start your ai right now. I recommend aromasin 12.5 Ed starting off or adex .5 Ed or formeron. If its your first cycle your injects are going to have some pip for awhile bro no biggie. Start pct around 2 1/2 weeks after last pin since sust has some pretty long esters in it. Hcg isn't a must on your cycle bro. It's not a heavy cycle but it will help recovery. Proviron I've only used for the libido boost it gives. Didn't really notice much besides that

Originally Posted by longworthb

Yes u can start your ai right now. I recommend aromasin 12.5 Ed starting off or adex .5 Ed or formeron. If its your first cycle your injects are going to have some pip for awhile bro no biggie. Start pct around 2 1/2 weeks after last pin since sust has some pretty long esters in it. Hcg isn't a must on your cycle bro. It's not a heavy cycle but it will help recovery. Proviron I've only used for the libido boost it gives. Didn't really notice much besides that

Whatso u think of jumping on dbol and proviron at te same time wit my sus cycle? Then after my last jab while I'm waiting the 2.5 weeks for clomid continue taking dbol and proviron till I start clomid? Or can I even continue takin them while on clomid? Suggestions please. Thanks a ton!

Don't take any type of aas during pct. the few weeks before pct u can run the dbol if u wish but I'd drop it atleast a day before u start pct. proviron isn't harsh on the liver like dbol so it would be ok to run them together. Remember to take a liver support when your On the dbol and id run it a max of 6 weeks at 30-50mg ed

dont worry about liver support.. it's just dbol


make sure you run your AI... because IIRC, dbol converts to a rather potent form of estrogen, and combine that with sust, will be a recipe for mad gyno and water/fat gain.

you should have run different gear since your goals are fitness modeling-oriented IMO

Originally Posted by Niles__

Hi!I'm almost 24 and Have been training on and off for 6 years and am in exceptionally really good shape. 10-13 percent body fat at 185lbs. I have a shoot that I'm going to in a few months for a fitness mag (can't really state that) and I've been preparing. I'm already pretty cut I just wanted to add more muscle mass. I just started working on the oil rigs in Alberta. I've been here for three weeks and on day one I started pinning 0.6 ml of sus 250 EOD (just over 500 mg). This is my first cycle and being an idiot I did not do as much research as I should have being busy with work and such. I haven't been taking hcg or an AI at all, only sus. I go back home tomorrow and so far pinned 11 times all together. Would it be ok if I started my hcg and AI mid cycle? If so how would I go about doing that? Also wanted to take proviron with my cycle would that be ok? Anything better u think I should Stack with instead or added on to? Keeping in mind I'm about three weeks already into my cycle. Dbol?I wanted my cycle to be for 14 weeks is that too much? Ive noticed on some threadsThat on a 12 week cycle the pinning would stop at week 10 and then clomid would start within the 12 week period. I wanted to pin for 14 weeks straight then on my last jab was going to wait 3 weeks to start my clomid at 100/100/50/50. How does that sound?Last question! I've noticed that a lot of the time time when I inject, te area where I inject gets extremely sore for the next three days at least. To the point where it's hard to walk when it's in my quad. I'm sure I'm pinning correctly But any ideas?Thanks a ton for all the feedback!I know they're a lot of newbie questions so bare with me!James

I would suggest LEARNING about what you are doing BEFORE you do it! That's all I have to say....

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

dont worry about liver support.. it's just dbol


make sure you run your AI... because IIRC, dbol converts to a rather potent form of estrogen, and combine that with sust, will be a recipe for mad gyno and water/fat gain.

you should have run different gear since your goals are fitness modeling-oriented IMO

So I should up the dosage of aromosin. More than 25mg u think? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Niles__

So I should up the dosage of aromosin. More than 25mg u think? Thanks!

12.5mg split into 2 doses per day should be enough assuming it's legitimate

Posting this here now. Thoughts?
dbol is mid cycle because that's the only time I can get it. Otherwise I would do it at the beginning. Sure it still works no?

14 week cycle (not including PCT)
Week1-14:
0.6ml of sus 250 EOD (just over 500mgs)
25 mg proviron ED (or 50?)
500iu hcg split into two injections per week
Aromosin- 25mg ED (or 50?)


Week4-10:
Dbol-20mg ED


After last jab of sus:
Blast phase hcg: 500 iu ED for 10 days then take 8 days off followed by PCT


PCT (started 2.5 weeks after last jab) :
100/100/50/50 - clomid
+ 25mg aromosin


opinions please on everything! Dosages especially and timing!
Thanks a ton!

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

12.5mg split into 2 doses per day should be enough assuming it's legitimate

12.5 x 2 to make 25mg a day. Or split 12.5mg in 2 to make it 12.5 a day. Sorry just want to make sure.

Total of 25 a day bro. If I was u I'd run the dbol the last 4-6 weeks because that's when your gains are going to be stalling. Proviron run 50ed

I suggest keeping it simple, for now. dont add anymore AAS.
sust 1-12
Adex asap-12 .5 EOD
Clomid PCT


keep provorin, dbol, HCG for a heavier cycle. Plan it better in advance. Keep in mind you work schedule and lifestyle when choosing gears. If you dont work 9-5 than maybe pinning ED isnt for you. Maybe long esters pin once or twice a week. Access to food, lots of calories for bulking is the most important element here not how many gears you are stacking.

Thanks for all the Info guys really appreciate it