Are you on letro?

I did my last shot of test on Dec 11th.
Went to the gym today and i had a pretty lousy workout :/
My shoulders, elbows, and wrists all hurt like a mufuka.
Is this normal
Are you on letro?

Joint pain can be associated with low thyroid levels, low cortisol, or low or high estrodial, low serotonin. Get some blood work.
^^^bloodwork is needed. What was your cycle? did you use an AI?

My cycle was test e 500mg/week. AI was anastrozle 12.5mg e3d
Blood work isnt going to happen until after PCT. Ill begin clomid on friday (10 days after last shot)


You sure your muscles aren't stronger than your ligaments can handle? When I came off my cycle my joints were really sore but winds up the weight I was pushing was tearing my joints up somethin awful. Do Cuban rotations for rotator cuffs, elbows and wrists. It helped me and I have no problem now. If that doesn't work try the chiropractor.
Your getting off otherwise i'd say incorporate some NPP. I hope this doesn't make you feel stupid, but do you 'warm up' before you workout?


My guess it sounds normal if you are overtraining.... Do you do Benchpress every chest workout? What is your typical arms/chest/back routine? I don't see any issues with everything you laid out in your T-E and PCT protocols (and now back on E)....I would to change up your upper body routine for a few weeks and see....

My upper body routine is brutal, and i hit everything twice a week.... So this might be the problem. Good call
if you experienced some strength gains and pushed yourself hard you may have overloaded your joints



do you ever foam roll, roll on golf balls, or softballs to get deep into the joints? I have allot of built of scare tissue that I have been getting worked out. It has caused me to reduce my bench by 200 lbs due to injuries and ect. How are you stretching and ect as well. Do you warm up or work out your rotator cuffs? All this over a long period of time with neglect can cause some issues. I am facing them now. My wife is an athletic training and I have been having her give me ultrasounds and therapy. Not only is my joint pain gone, but muscles that were not growing are TAKING off. My traps, legs and calves have gained inches with nothing changed to my work out just be deep tissue foam roll and stretching. Also diet is HUGE I eat a table spoon of olive oil with every meal and that seems to help my joints.
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This maybe not so far off topic...but what are some good warm-up routines for your shoulders..most in particular, rotator cuffs? I do 35 or 40 reps doing straight raises (front side - up just past chest level -while seated) with 10lb dumbbells in each hand. I wouldn't mind knowing some others too.


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Current Work out Method: Doggcrapp Training


Hows your mood??...do you feel like crying to "hell's bell's" on the radio....are you sleeping ok?...emotions etc....if thats all a non issue...i would say your way overtrained...
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moods are amazing. i emotionally/mentally feel better than ever actually.
i think it's just that i am over training. i'm gonna go ahead and switch back to hitting everything once a week, rather than 2 times a week. especially with the fact that i'm nearing the end of my cycle.

no. i'm extending my cycle another 4 weeks. so it'll end up being a 14 week cycle. (still within reasonable range i believe, especially for a long ester testosterone-only cycle)



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