Thread: Test Enanthate, Nolvadex and Clomid Cycle

This is what I am currently planning...

Nolvadex 20mg/day - week 8-12 of cycle or if gyno symptoms appear (during cycle)
PCT
Nolvadex 10mg/every other day for 2 weeks right after last injection (1st and 2nd week)
Nolvadex 10mg/day + clomid 75mg/day 2 weeks after last injection (3rd week)
clomid 50mg/day (4th week)
clomid 25mg/day for 10 days (5th week)

You need to take more test. Anything less than 500mg a week you are wasting it and probably wont get much out of it except small testicles. Id say do 600mg a week since you are dosed at 400mg/ml (which by the way 400mg/ml is too concentrated... its going to hurt like hell). Your clomid and tamoxifene are dosed correctly for daily dosing but I wouldnt start those until two weeks before your cycle ends. At 400-600mg you really shouldnt see much as far sides but if you start to see some estrogenic sides I would pick up some research anastrazole from one of the research chem sponsors. I like Http://www.purchasepeptides.com myself. It is like $30. Got anymore specific questions you can PM me.

400 mg a week is fine. It's your first cycle. You don't need more than 500 mg a week which tends to be the recommended amount but 400 mg will do. Not sure why ^ thinks 400 mg a week would be a waste of money. IMO you are better off starting low and upping it to see how you react rather than going knee deep and having to fight sides later.

an average TRT dosage is 300mg a week which means if you were to take 300mg a week of testosterone without needing TRT you would get no benefits from the test once you shut down. 400mg of test will bring you only slightly above normal testosterone levels once shutdown happens. That is why I recommend at least 500mg.

The average TRT dose is NOT 300 mg a week. You're lucky if you can get your doc to agree on 200-250 mg. unless you are talking of self medication. It's his first cycle. Receptors are fresh and he could gain easily on 400 mg. i didn't cycle for two years and came back and grew on 250-300 mg a week. Yes, 400 mg won't do much for the advanced user but for the novice it's plenty.

Originally Posted by rippedgolfer

The average TRT dose is NOT 300 mg a week. You're lucky if you can get your doc to agree on 200-250 mg. unless you are talking of self medication. It's his first cycle. Receptors are fresh and he could gain easily on 400 mg. i didn't cycle for two years and came back and grew on 250-300 mg a week. Yes, 400 mg won't do much for the advanced user but for the novice it's plenty.

stop it.



400mg a week is not a waste, but 600mg is better

get an AI, adex or aromasin (make sure it's from a reputable company) and time it's implication based on the shortest ester within the compound (proprionate = day one essentially, Enanthate or cypionate, id say no later than day 4 just to be safe.. better off taking it immediately regardless in the interest of safety).

test 400 usually contains multiple esters, some that are very long like decanoate. If very long esters are present, adjust your pct timing accordingly

Don't use Nolva on cycle unless you feel itchy nipples or gyno related sides. You can use it in your pct with clomid. You should get an AI like adex or armor as a preventive for estrogen related sides.

Just out of curiosity.. why not use Nolva in cycle?

Nolva isnt going to prevent estrogen. It just blocks it at ur nips. So when u stop taking the nolva bang u end up with gyno. Well not saying u will but u deff will have a better chance. Use adex aromasin or formeron on cycle. I recommend formeron 2 pumps a day or aromasin at 12.5 ed should be fine and also run it in pct to prevent estro sides as ur hormones will be fluctuating greatly. And for the love of god do as much research as possible before starting. The last thing u want is bigger tits then ur girl

toss the clomid there is no reason for it. my advice...

600 test
12.5 aromasin ed or .5 adex eod
PCT with nolva

done...

As for the TRT talk and what he should run 300 is not standard... That is just what we consider standard for cruising... I beleive watson test c is 200mg. Most doctors wont even give you a full cc. They will get you around 900 for your test results. (i work with a family pract dr that does this) 300mg puts you over the normal range... It its dosed right 1cc of 300 should net you around 1300 give or take. So 400 should put you well over 1500 which is considered high on blood work. I ran 500 for my first cycle and liked 500 allot, also stacked it with 20 dbol.